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are cd's a good idea?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 8/22/16 at 7:57 pm
i always heard my grandparents talking about cd's coming due...is this something worth putting some money into?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:24 pm to mandevilletiger34
The return on CDs right now is so low that I would only look at them if I was a very conservative investor with no appetite for risk. Even then, I'd probably look elsewhere.
In the not so distant past, CDs offered a decent rate of return with little to no risk (depending on the issuer).
Off tangent, but we will have the fed to thank when a lot of people like your grandparents lose money when interest rates rise because they've had to chase yield in other instruments.
In the not so distant past, CDs offered a decent rate of return with little to no risk (depending on the issuer).
Off tangent, but we will have the fed to thank when a lot of people like your grandparents lose money when interest rates rise because they've had to chase yield in other instruments.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:26 pm to mandevilletiger34
No, the rate on CDs are in the 1-2% range. This doesn't even beat the long term inflation rate so you're effectively losing money by putting money there that you can't readily access for whatever the term. If you just want a temporary place to "save" money, then look into one of the high yield online savings like Capital One 360 at ~0.7% interest. At least the money is always liquid.
Your grandparents are probably remembering a time when CDs yielded 5-6%. However at this time mortgages were also likely in the 8-10% range. People don't always acknowledge the big picture when talking about "The good ole days."
Your grandparents are probably remembering a time when CDs yielded 5-6%. However at this time mortgages were also likely in the 8-10% range. People don't always acknowledge the big picture when talking about "The good ole days."
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:36 pm to GoldenD
quote:Fair point.
However at this time mortgages were also likely in the 8-10% range.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:36 pm to mandevilletiger34
Guaranteed loser for their stated duration. Slightly better than cash.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:33 pm to mandevilletiger34
In light of the fact that the national average rate on a 36 month CD is less than half a percent and Ally is offering 1% for a normal savings account, I have no idea why anyone would ever consider it.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:08 pm to Joshjrn
Capital One 360 (formerly ING) pays .75 percent now on savings of any amount. Their new money market account pays 1 percent on balances over $10k. Withdraw whenever you want.
You can't do much better with most CDs these days.
You can't do much better with most CDs these days.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:36 am to Twenty 49
I recently purchased a cd, that's guaranteed a 1-3% return, but is also tied to the stock market where I can net however the market plays out uncapped. I do have my money tied up for 6yrs, and minimum investment is $10k. But my principal as well as my interest base is guaranteed.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:34 am to GoldenD
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Your grandparents are probably remembering a time when CDs yielded 5-6%. However at this time mortgages were also likely in the 8-10% range. People don't always acknowledge the big picture when talking about "The good ole days."
I long for those old days because I'm hitting those "done borrowing, time to save and draw interest days." But I sure appreciated those low interest rates in recent years. My dad was always a cash guy. Bought everything - houses, cars, boats - with cash. If he didn't have the cash for it, he didn't buy it. CDs were the riskiest investments he ever made. He lived off of interest for a long time. Post-Katrina, he's had to go deep into his principal, though he has enough to last his lifetime. Back in the early 90s I tried to sell him on index funds. At the time he said it was fine for me, but he didn't have enough years left to take risks with his money. Geez - the money he'd have now if he listened to me. Those high interest rates were very kind to a guy like him though.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 5:35 am
Posted on 8/23/16 at 7:13 am to mandevilletiger34
High interest savings accounts. "It's your money, use it when you need it".
Posted on 8/23/16 at 9:18 am to mandevilletiger34
quote:
i always heard my grandparents talking about cd's coming due...is this something worth putting some money into?
Posted on 8/23/16 at 10:55 am to TJG210
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that's guaranteed a 1-3% return,
go buy a fairly safe monthly dividend payer. put stops on it. waaaay higher returns and not some risky volatile stock either. good dividend history as well. Not a huge price fluctuation. BUt if you put alot in you will get a lot in return but it isn't a buy and hold and forget about stock either. you will need to monitor it and set stops just in case.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:00 am to mandevilletiger34
I don't want anything to do with a Certificate of Depreciation
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:05 am to Tiger4life306
I just went an opened a unsecured LOC with one of my banks locally. They first asked if i wanted a secured LOC which would require me taking cash out my checking account and locking up/depositing into CD's.
Told her HELL NO give me the forms to fill out for an unsecured LOC. I wasn't about to touch that crap with a ten foot pole.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 11:38 am to Fat Bastard
CD's used to be decent. Hell I was cleaning out some papers and found one i had in the mid 2000's that was paying 4.75% back in the 80's they were knocking on 20%
man i wish I could get in on that with the cash i have now sucks to borrow in that climate but great if you have cash.
man i wish I could get in on that with the cash i have now sucks to borrow in that climate but great if you have cash.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:05 pm to GoldenD
quote:
Your grandparents are probably remembering a time when CDs yielded 5-6%. However at this time mortgages were also likely in the 8-10% range. People don't always acknowledge the big picture when talking about "The good ole days."
5-6%? Try 14%+ on a 1 year CD at some S&Ls (early 80's). And I think the first time that I got a 30 year fixed rate under 10% was around 1986 or so.
You dang young whippersnappers! But we understand your point. Also, one has to look at real interest rates, so include inflation as you look at the various rates.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:12 pm to mandevilletiger34
As others have said, with interest rates so low, they're not good investments. However, it may be worthwhile to throw your emergency fund into a CD at a local credit union (assuming their rates are higher than what you can find with online savings accounts). This allows the emergency fund to keep up with inflation a bit better than with a regular savings account. The downside is that you'll forfeit some interest if you need to pull the money prior to maturity.
That's about the only way that I'd see it as worthwhile to have a CD right now.
That's about the only way that I'd see it as worthwhile to have a CD right now.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 3:56 pm to Jag_Warrior
21.5% prime rate under james earl carter in late 70's.
chew on that for awhile.
hell i was happy getting 4% in a money market account in late 90's. then down to 2%. That shite went the way of the dodo bird also.
chew on that for awhile.
hell i was happy getting 4% in a money market account in late 90's. then down to 2%. That shite went the way of the dodo bird also.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 4:37 pm to Fat Bastard
Yep. There was nothing playful about "Big Paulie" Volcker. Legend says he was so tough that he once got bitten by a rattle snake... and the rattle snake died! Compare him to the mop headed muppet that's in charge of the Fed now. God help us all.
I do feel for elderly people who only know bank products and nothing about alternatives.
I do feel for elderly people who only know bank products and nothing about alternatives.
Posted on 8/23/16 at 5:59 pm to mandevilletiger34
CDs - Tying up your money at a rate barely over zero? Why bother?
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