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Anyone ever interview for a job you didn't know you weren't qualified for?

Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 3:59 pm
I drove from New Orleans to Houston to interview this morning and it didn't seem like they read my resume at all. Seemed surprised that I had driven from New Orleans (I wasn't expecting it, but they did offer to reimburse my mileage).

I then went through a series of 4 interviews with various people and it's clear their job description is incorrect. It was for a financial analyst but they wanted someone with heavy VBA and SQL which the job posting seemed to gloss over as preferred skills. But they clearly wanted skills I don't even remotely purport to have on resume.

Just frustrated I drove all that way and wasted my time and I felt like they wasted their time as well, but I couldn't have known the job didn't match my experience based on the job description. Anyone have experience with this on either side?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:06 pm to
This is why you fly to Houston from NO.

By the way, that sucks. Usually, its the other way around. I'm fibbing a little bit because most job descriptions are stupid so I'll add in some shite to match what they are asking for and I'll figure it out when I'm hired like any other capable human being.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:15 pm to
I stretched my experience in Excel to as far as I could go, but I just haven't had any experience in VBA other than googling shite I want to do which was pretty basic. If I had known, I could have learned a little bit more if I had known that would be the focus, but I was just lost.

I expressed my interest to learn it, but I feel like they'll find someone that already knows it.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:25 pm to
You did the best you could. Don't take the above as criticism, I was just ranting about the other direction it goes. It sounds like they had a bad job description. That's not on you.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36319 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:36 pm to
I'm about to start purposely doing it. Worst they can tell me is to get lost.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 4:45 pm to
They didn't know you were coming from NOLA?? Is your NOLA address on your resume?

How big a company is this? Did HR set up the interview?

It seems to me like a couple of things happened.

1) The job description is not right / was never looked at by the hiring managers.

2) The hiring managers never looked at your resume.

Not sure this is a company I would want to work for.

Sucks about having to make the trip and I assume burn a vacation day or two. Hopefully you got to stop at Buc-ees in Baytown and got some good snacks for your troubles.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:34 pm to
I was laid off recently so it's not really a time issue.

I do have New Orleans on resume, and yes, I think it was HR issue on all fronts. There didn't seem to be a "hiring manager". It was rotational interview so I spent about 15 minutes with 4 different people including a VP. They employ about 125 people.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18572 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:23 pm to
You never know what a company wants at all. Go into any interview ready to discuss anything including your hobbies. They might carry over.

I'm a financial analyst. They usually want someone with an accounting or finance degree and experience.

But you know what. I sold them that I learn quickly and they liked that I hadn't picked up bad accounting habits.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

You never know what a company wants at all. Go into any interview ready to discuss anything including your hobbies. They might carry over. I'm a financial analyst. They usually want someone with an accounting or finance degree and experience. But you know what. I sold them that I learn quickly and they liked that I hadn't picked up bad accounting habits.


When I was in a position to advertise and hire for open positions, we would shoot for the moon in our advertisements knowing no one could meet every criteria. We were happy if a prospective candidate had some experience with just 40% of what was listed, of course we probably scared off a lot of good candidates because they thought they didn't meet the requirements.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18572 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:41 pm to
That's what I was told too. I'm sure not every company is like that you know a whole part of the game is being able to honestly pivot your current expirece against the potential value you can provide a company. Those who do it well get hired. It took many poor interviews by me to learn that.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53177 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:55 pm to
Still working on my "pitch", it's been a couple of years since I interviewed so I'm still working at it.
Posted by kaaj24
Dallas
Member since Jan 2010
609 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 8:44 pm to
We learn from each experience. I do a phone screen anytime we are searching for a candidate. 30 minutes to see if there is a good match before asking someone to come in for several hours.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:02 pm to
I had a similar interview process where I realized early on that they were looking for something different than the job description. I wasn't really interested in what they were looking for.

The Interview was a total disaster and one of the most awkward things I've been apart of. One of the rotational interviews was with a blind guy and he started asking me questions about my resume, but it was obviously from someone else's resume. I politely told him he had the wrong resume, but he was all flustered and it nose dived from there. He couldn't find my resume in a format the he could read/hear, so I told him don't worry about it because I'm not really interested in the job anymore. Then he got all upset and thought he was the reason why I was leaving. Since he couldn't see, I was debating just running out of his office and hoping I could make it out of the building before he noticed I was gone.


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:06 am to
Yes.

I interviewed with a large O&G company for an Environmental Manager position.

Once the interview began with a panel of about 20 other people, I quickly realized this position was for the Air Compliance Environmental Manager for the entire state of Texas. I had zero air experience.

It got awkward really quick as they started to quiz me on air regulations.

It is the only interview that I've had where I didn't get a job offer...
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8376 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 12:02 pm to
I've been on both sides of this issue.


A bad job description has been due to the functional manager charged with getting together the job description having no idea what the job actually entails. When the people who actually do the work interview the candidate they're confused because questions don't match the posted description. Figured that out going to interviews and saw it again later in management with peer managers not knowing what their department actually did.(usually masked by some supervisor doing their job)

Or if dealing with recruiters they'll fudge resumes just to get people in to take an interview. Candidates come in and get creamed due to being unprepared. Figured that out by getting un-doctored versions of the resume from candidates smart enough to bring copies of their resume to interviews.

I do a deal of hiring and hate people having to go through bad interviews as well as wasting both our times. So I have team leads do 15-20 minute pre-screens before we have anyone come visit. If a candidate asked to do a phone interview or a Skype interview I wouldn't be opposed. Maybe you should ask for that next time you might have to travel?
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40559 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:57 pm to
I got flown in from Chicago to Memphis for a job I was 100% qualified for and the hiring manager didn't even know my name and it was obvious he hadn't taken more than a scan of my resume before. I was happy for the free trip, but why waste time and resources without doing due diligence first?
Posted by cfa626
Member since Apr 2016
561 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:18 am to
Interviewed for a job once that I was qualified for, but they didn't ask me about anything relevant.
Asked me what cereal I am most like, what my hobbies are, what did I do on my Friday nights during college, etc.,
Definitely caught me off guard and I bombed on the questions.
Guess I wasn't as qualified as I thought. I hate those stupid questions that make no sense.
Anyways, good luck in your job search.
Posted by kcheun28
Member since Apr 2013
23 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 3:32 pm to
As long as you're willing to learn, you will do fine.

Learning new skills will show employers you don't back down on challenges.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2239 posts
Posted on 6/11/16 at 7:38 pm to
Yep. I was hired in ATL as a Financial Analyst straight out of school. About 2 weeks in I was assigned a project. When I asked for some help on the VBA portion they said I should have learned that when I was in grad school. I told them that I didn't have an MBA and that was my last day.

It wasn't on the job posting, nor my resume, nor ever brought up in the interview. They just assumed.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/12/16 at 11:09 am to
Here's my guess:
The HR director's niece knows two releases of VBA and has SQL down cold. She has a minor in computer science and an MBA in systems.
You are just another resume they can claim to have interviewed before they give it to her.

I was offered an interview with the Coast Guard to be using a language I never took one course in. The ad on the USAJOBS website did not even spell out what language I would have to use. I had to call for that info. I guessed those suckers needed 2 more people so they could give the job to the pre-selected person.

if you see programming in the job description, ask about it next time.
did you take a course?
did you use it on the job previously?

HR is terrible at nuance. Do an extensive phone interview before you go that far next time.


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