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Anybody familiar with the Timber market?

Posted on 12/21/11 at 8:06 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 12/21/11 at 8:06 am
What are prices looking like right now? Someone told me they were currently down. Is now a good time to invest in timber land?
Posted by DisplacedCajn
Arkansas
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/21/11 at 3:05 pm to
3-4 dollars a ton on pulp, around $25.00 ton on saw logs in Arkansas. Thats close to about half of what it was a year or so ago. Pine lumber is as cheap now if not cheaper, than it was 20 years ago!
This post was edited on 12/21/11 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Cold Pizza
Member since Sep 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 12/21/11 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Is now a good time to invest in timber land?


You bet. Once the housing market gets back to where it was in 2007 you will be rolling in it OT Baller style.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8501 posts
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Posted by DisplacedCajn 3-4 dollars a ton on pulp, around $25.00 ton on saw logs in Arkansas


I think in E. Texas it's around $2/ton for pulp or less. If you can get Minerals with the land, I think you'll make more with the minerals than the timber in the long run.
Posted by geauxskeet
Member since Oct 2009
527 posts
Posted on 12/21/11 at 10:56 pm to
Not sure what u have, or are really looking for. Investing in Timber LOOOONG term may be good, but don't expect a quick turn.

Currently we pay landowners:
$0.50 - $1.00 a ton for fuel.
$3.00 - $5.00 a ton for longwood of various types
$6.00 - $7.00 a ton for clean chips

we harvest about 5000 tons a week and actually pay at or above the market in this area.

Someone else mention prices were down - they weren't lying, we are getting about 40% less at delivery than we were a year ago. This while diesel is up.
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 2:54 am to
quote:

3-4 dollars a ton on pulp, around $25.00 ton on saw logs in Arkansas. Thats close to about half of what it was a year or so ago. Pine lumber is as cheap now if not cheaper, than it was 20 years ago!



I have a good bit of pine timber. Talk about depressing.
Posted by tdg
Member since Sep 2009
223 posts
Posted on 12/22/11 at 8:51 am to
Anybody know if prices in eastern LA are this low? I had a couple of friends thin pine around LA/MS border about a year ago. One was on MS side and one was on LA side. I'm pretty sure they both got $8-$9/ton
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28082 posts
Posted on 12/23/11 at 6:47 am to
I am not sure if prices but I hope it goes back up.

We have about 50 acres of 80 planted with pine, the 1st cut is in about 5 years or so
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 12/23/11 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/23/11 at 6:43 pm to
We have way too much timber. Demand is bad because of housing and supply is way too much because of government incentives to plant trees on marginal farm land over the last 30 years.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 12/25/11 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Anybody familiar with the Timber market?


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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/25/11 at 2:17 pm to
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