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Any experience using job recruiters/hunters?
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:18 am
I've read different opinions on these firms. Some say that they're great for finding a job, but some caution that because they work on commission, they're going to try and shove you into whatever job comes up first, which might be a bad situation.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:23 am to StringedInstruments
I've used them and they have landed me some good jobs that were not posted on your typical job sites. However you do have to use your own judgment because every job they present you is the best opportunity ever.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:28 am to StringedInstruments
I used them in my last job search with little success. They all seemed eager to help me initially, but the only interview I got through them was for a position I was over-qualified for and was well below the salary I told them I expected. I didn't get the impression they tried to shove me into any job. I got the impression they were a bunch of idiots that couldn't cut it at a real job and sucked even worse at placing candidates. They were all horrible at returning calls/emails.
One did get me a couple of temp assignments while I was unemployed, which was nice just to get out of the house a little.
One did get me a couple of temp assignments while I was unemployed, which was nice just to get out of the house a little.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 9:51 am to StringedInstruments
I think it is highly dependent on the industry and level you are looking for.
I have used a recruiter to bring me candidates to hire, and I have used a recruiter to find a new job for myself, so I've seen it from both sides.
As a job hunter, I would never pay anyone. But understand what that means. The good recruiters are paid by the companies when a hire is made and usually lasts a certain time. The ones we work with, We pay 25% of the fee at hire date, 50% 3 months in, and 25% after a year. However, if the hire leaves within 6 months for any reason, we get half of our fee back.
The fee is substantial. We only use them on senior and above type hires, and the fee is usually 25 percent of first year salary. On a 60K hire, that's a fee of $15,000.
In the CPA recruiting field, there are a lot of crap headhunters that don't make it a year, and there are a few very, very good ones. These really good ones are always looking for good candidates.
I have used a recruiter to bring me candidates to hire, and I have used a recruiter to find a new job for myself, so I've seen it from both sides.
As a job hunter, I would never pay anyone. But understand what that means. The good recruiters are paid by the companies when a hire is made and usually lasts a certain time. The ones we work with, We pay 25% of the fee at hire date, 50% 3 months in, and 25% after a year. However, if the hire leaves within 6 months for any reason, we get half of our fee back.
The fee is substantial. We only use them on senior and above type hires, and the fee is usually 25 percent of first year salary. On a 60K hire, that's a fee of $15,000.
In the CPA recruiting field, there are a lot of crap headhunters that don't make it a year, and there are a few very, very good ones. These really good ones are always looking for good candidates.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:47 am to StringedInstruments
I work in technology. We use them on occasion but they do try to fit whatever they can find in to a position. They waste a lot of our time with bad match candidates. In my experience they'll tell you whatever half truth(lie) that'll get you to take a job.(or in my case to hire the candidate)
That being said you may find a job through them. They're out there trying to broker deals. Just remember they're definitely not your friend.
That being said you may find a job through them. They're out there trying to broker deals. Just remember they're definitely not your friend.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:45 pm to StringedInstruments
I used construction industry headhunter firm once with good results. Company that hired me is an industry leader in what they do as I later found out...really provided a spring board for me to get where I am today. Not sure how it works in other industries but she/they had inroads with companies that were looking. They basically interviewed me before deciding which of their "clients" would be the best fit. There are some shady ones out there just trying to make a sell, so be careful.
Post your industry so someone can provide some more specific advice.
Post your industry so someone can provide some more specific advice.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 12:53 pm to BLM
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Post your industry so someone can provide some more specific advice.
That's kind of my issue though. I don't know if I have an industry. I was head first into the world of academia (education) and ran into a brickwall. Now I'm trying to rebuild my life, but I'm not sure what I'm qualified for. Still trying to research where I should be.
I have a lot of experience in rhetoric and composition, helping run a writing center, qualitative research, and teaching. Some experience with video editing, marketing and communication, and brand building.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 1:23 pm to StringedInstruments
Maybe try to get an entry level Marketing Analyst position.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:12 pm to StringedInstruments
I've been placed in several jobs by headhunters. The good ones get most of the best jobs to recruit because they offer companies the best candidates. If you're working with one that is just trying to slam you into a spot, he won't be around long.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:52 pm to StringedInstruments
I wouldn't put any faith into a generalist or someone you pay. To be worth a darn to you, they need to be focused on one industry and they need to be getting paid on a fee basis by the company they hire for.
I have been contacted by and conversed with numerous headhunters. I have had several interviews that headhunters were responsible for setting up. I got one job that was arranged by a headhunter.
All times they were industry-specific headhunters and they were always being paid a finders fee by the company they were trying to place for.
They definitely don't care about you and they definitely want to shove you into a job, but the better ones are more subtle about it. Even if they are a senior-position-only type firm like Oliver James, you still need to keep you head on a swivel, do your own research, and put on the brakes when you feel you need to.
I have been contacted by and conversed with numerous headhunters. I have had several interviews that headhunters were responsible for setting up. I got one job that was arranged by a headhunter.
All times they were industry-specific headhunters and they were always being paid a finders fee by the company they were trying to place for.
They definitely don't care about you and they definitely want to shove you into a job, but the better ones are more subtle about it. Even if they are a senior-position-only type firm like Oliver James, you still need to keep you head on a swivel, do your own research, and put on the brakes when you feel you need to.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:57 pm to StringedInstruments
Did I see at some time you're in Birmingham? With that background, Pangeatwo may be able to place you somewhere. They were one of the better ones I dealt with, though my contact there was pretty useless. He's no longer there though, so maybe they have better people.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:29 pm to StringedInstruments
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That's kind of my issue though. I don't know if I have an industry. I was head first into the world of academia (education) and ran into a brickwall. Now I'm trying to rebuild my life, but I'm not sure what I'm qualified for. Still trying to research where I should be.
I have a lot of experience in rhetoric and composition, helping run a writing center, qualitative research, and teaching. Some experience with video editing, marketing and communication, and brand building.
A headhunter is not going to be of any help to you here. They are good when getting people to move from one firm to another within the same general industry.
What you need is a job coach, or someone to help you figure out how to take your skill set and apply them to a profession.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:31 pm to LSUFanHouston
Think you could hit me with contact info of the "very, very good" Cpa recruiters? Thanks
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:01 pm to birdieman
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Think you could hit me with contact info of the "very, very good" Cpa recruiters? Thanks
Carrie Lewis at Robert Half
Lee Youngblood / Danya Bogart - McIntyre/Youngblood Recruiting (they cover LA and Texas, more Texas lately it seems)
Kenny Frey - Frey Consulting
Samantha Riegler - Pinnacle Finance - Mainly Texas, and she does 99.9 percent industry positions
I have worked with and/or personally know all of these individuals and they are all very good.
I've also been hit on a lot lately be recruiters from EY and KPMG if that is your thing.
What's your background? Seems for certain levels, there are tons of jobs out there - even if they are not advertised.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
Thanks.Info is for my wife. Currently Big 4 forensics manager, looking to change markets.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:26 pm to LSUFanHouston
This is pretty spot on. The recruiter is looking to fit someone to a position of need for a specific company. They're likely not going to waste time helping you figure out what career best fits your skill set.
Someone mentioned marketing. Based on what you listed, that seems like a potential fit. You should figure out how to approach someone within that industry who can break the industry down with a broad brush. It would help you understand what career paths are possible.
On a related note...this reminds me that there seems to be a disconnect between academia and the real world. You said you were headed toward a career in teaching but now you don't know what you're qualified for. Not a knock on you. Just something I used to think about when I was younger and would run into someone with what I considered to be a very cool job in an interesting field. Always thought, man if I had known that was a thing I would have gone that direction. I grew up in public school in LA so maybe that's the root problem. Sorry in advance for the sidetrack.
Someone mentioned marketing. Based on what you listed, that seems like a potential fit. You should figure out how to approach someone within that industry who can break the industry down with a broad brush. It would help you understand what career paths are possible.
On a related note...this reminds me that there seems to be a disconnect between academia and the real world. You said you were headed toward a career in teaching but now you don't know what you're qualified for. Not a knock on you. Just something I used to think about when I was younger and would run into someone with what I considered to be a very cool job in an interesting field. Always thought, man if I had known that was a thing I would have gone that direction. I grew up in public school in LA so maybe that's the root problem. Sorry in advance for the sidetrack.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:37 pm to birdieman
Markets as in city, firm size, service line, etc?
Does she want to stay in public?
I know a few people that work for Horne which has offices in Baton Rouge, in their fraud and forensics practice.
Does she want to stay in public?
I know a few people that work for Horne which has offices in Baton Rouge, in their fraud and forensics practice.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
She maps to NYC market but it's almost 100% travel so we live here... She wants to get off the road but stay on gulf coast. She applied to something at Horne (Gulfport) a week or so, no word back thus far. We know it'll be a huge pay cut for her to leave NYC forensics for a regional firm.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:17 pm to birdieman
I know a couple of people in their fraud practice in Baton Rouge. Not sure if that office is hiring or not, but if it goes a few weeks and she has not heard anything, come find me on here and I'll send you some contact info.
Horne is a different firm... I'll say that. A good different, but it would not surprise me that their hiring process would take a very long time.
Horne is a different firm... I'll say that. A good different, but it would not surprise me that their hiring process would take a very long time.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:28 pm to StringedInstruments
I'm contacted almost weekly by recruiters because my resume is posted on Monster and Career Builder. Most the jobs they try to put me on are out of my area. I've never had a bad experience. I will say though never believe them when they give you the salary cap for a position. I had one swear the cap was 60 and a few days later he was up to 70.
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