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Ameriprise Financial Advisors
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:09 am
Did a prelim meeting with one yesterday, what are the ups/downs of working with one?
Up front/yearly fee for the planning was 1,750 which was a bit surprising.
I do not have time to proactively manage our assets on my own due to work and very young kids, wife is clueless on this stuff, TIA.
Up front/yearly fee for the planning was 1,750 which was a bit surprising.
I do not have time to proactively manage our assets on my own due to work and very young kids, wife is clueless on this stuff, TIA.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:14 am to KABoss02
Make sure it's someone you know, or someone referred to you. Some of those people are good, many are clueless.
What did you all discuss in the first meeting? I find how that meeting goes - how the advisor acts and what he asks you - can go a long way toward determining how it will work.
Most of those types of advisors charge a flat fee or charge a fee based on percentage of portfolio.
What did you all discuss in the first meeting? I find how that meeting goes - how the advisor acts and what he asks you - can go a long way toward determining how it will work.
Most of those types of advisors charge a flat fee or charge a fee based on percentage of portfolio.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:20 am to LSUFanHouston
He is a referral all through a good fried at work, manages a lot of the higher ups at my old company's money. We met over lunch, he asked some basic questions about goals, no hard sell.
We met again yesterday with wife in tow. She likes him, I feel like he is pretty good at what he does based on conversations (he has been doing it a while). Flat fee for the plans, some cost associated with other investments per him yesterday. Still no hard sell which makes me feel better.
Bonus is he is two blocks from my office, so I find him pretty easy...
We met again yesterday with wife in tow. She likes him, I feel like he is pretty good at what he does based on conversations (he has been doing it a while). Flat fee for the plans, some cost associated with other investments per him yesterday. Still no hard sell which makes me feel better.
Bonus is he is two blocks from my office, so I find him pretty easy...
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:27 am to KABoss02
What kind of assets are we talking about here? For that 1% (guessing) I'd want to be sure his advice would pay for itself.
Once you set things up (which is not difficult unless you have a big mess) ongoing maintenance time is practically zero.
Once you set things up (which is not difficult unless you have a big mess) ongoing maintenance time is practically zero.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:31 am to Sigma
Pretty large 401K sitting still with previous employer, significantly more income coming in due to switching jobs, wives 401K that is in god knows what fund, and our cash on hand which is a nice chunk. We also need to do estate planning, college funding for kids, saving for next house, etc. I hesitate to give $'s, some folks on here know me. I am also looking to do more short term investing.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:53 am to KABoss02
In that case, I would be willing to pay up front to set things up. In that process, educate yourself on where the money is going, why investments are chosen, and how to maintain that approach. If you are inexperienced at this kind of thing, it's probably a good investment. But go into it with lots of questions. Make them teach you. Don't let them say "Just trust me." Be skeptical of everything.
You'll probably need to see an attorney for the estate planning though.
You'll probably need to see an attorney for the estate planning though.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:55 am to KABoss02
My personal opinion is that unless you simply have no time or no knowledge at all, it makes no sense to use a fixed-fee advisor unless you have 250K in investible assets.
Is that 1750 just for plan setup, or, is that an estimate of your first year's fees. Most planners like that charge around 1% a year.
Sounds like he comes well reccomended, so he must do good work. Being comfortable with him is very important, which it sounds like you all are.
If you are unsure, you could give him only part of your portfolio to start.
Also, if you want to do more short term investing, I would do it yourself. Most financial advisors are taking the long term view, finding good investments, and following them to make sure they stay good. However, they are not going to want to be jumping in and out of stuff. This is why they charge a percentage fee of assets, and not by the trade.
Is that 1750 just for plan setup, or, is that an estimate of your first year's fees. Most planners like that charge around 1% a year.
Sounds like he comes well reccomended, so he must do good work. Being comfortable with him is very important, which it sounds like you all are.
If you are unsure, you could give him only part of your portfolio to start.
Also, if you want to do more short term investing, I would do it yourself. Most financial advisors are taking the long term view, finding good investments, and following them to make sure they stay good. However, they are not going to want to be jumping in and out of stuff. This is why they charge a percentage fee of assets, and not by the trade.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:59 am to LSUFanHouston
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I do not have time to proactively manage our assets on my own
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We met again yesterday with wife in tow. She likes him
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I feel like he is pretty good at what he does based on conversations (he has been doing it a while
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Still no hard sell which makes me feel better.
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Pretty large 401K sitting still with previous employer, significantly more income coming in due to switching jobs, wives 401K that is in god knows what fund, and our cash on hand which is a nice chunk
you have your answer. don't listen to what some of these dolts will come on here and say.
eta, no dolts here yet. everything has been good advice so far
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:01 am to LSUFanHouston
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s that 1750 just for plan setup, or, is that an estimate of your first year's fees.
1,750 is for the "plan", other investments may have a fee depending on what it is. The 1,750 covers 3-4 meetings per year with him/team and monitoring results. etc. I need to ask him about the fees associated with what he expects us to be in before pulling the trigger.
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it makes no sense to use a fixed-fee advisor unless you have 250K in investible assets.
We are not quite there, but will be very soon.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:56 am to KABoss02
People pay people to manage their 401k?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:45 pm to reb13
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eople pay people to manage their 401k?
Did you not read anything else posted and just reply with a smart arse comment?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:08 pm to KABoss02
I have never charged for a financial plan. It's part of the overall package. But whatever works for him
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:46 pm to Broke
So what do you make your money off of? % fee?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:13 pm to Janky
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yes, asset management fee.
So what is the difference? You charge a % fee based on value of the assets, they charge a flat planning fee, with some additional fees depending on investment selections and other services.
Both make money, I imagine both approaches are competitive depending on value of the assets/complexity of planning/services rendered.
What % fee do you charge?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:20 pm to KABoss02
Does the 1,750 oome out all up front, or in quarterly installments?
Also, you need to ask him what his annual fee after the first year will be. Will it still be a flat fee?
I'm wondering if $1,750 is a minimum fee. Also, is he going to actively manage the investments for you?
Also, you need to ask him what his annual fee after the first year will be. Will it still be a flat fee?
I'm wondering if $1,750 is a minimum fee. Also, is he going to actively manage the investments for you?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:21 pm to KABoss02
Don't let him fool you on the complexity of the planning process. Just be sure he shows up 3/4 times instead of just sending his "team".
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:33 pm to KABoss02
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So what is the difference? You charge a % fee based on value of the assets, they charge a flat planning fee, with some additional fees depending on investment selections and other services.
He will charge you a planning fee AND an asset management fee or commissions depending on his platform. I am not saying it is wrong I am only explaining the difference. My advisory fees range from .75% to 1.25% most are 1%.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:46 pm to iknowmorethanyou
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Don't let him fool you on the complexity of the planning process. Just be sure he shows up 3/4 times instead of just sending his "team".
It is him and one other partner at their "practice". Supposedly he and the partner both actively manage different parts of the plan that they put together for us.
I definitely need a better understanding from him on what the other "fees" are that I am likely to incur.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Does the 1,750 oome out all up front, or in quarterly installments
Seemed like up front to me.
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lso, you need to ask him what his annual fee after the first year will be. Will it still be a flat fee
This would be the fee each year. He said it may increase if investment, asset, planning complexity changed significantly.
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I'm wondering if $1,750 is a minimum fee
I do not believe it is. I believe they build the fee based on what we are asking for help with.
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