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re: Zach Mettenberger's quote after the Chick Fil A Bowl - Huge senior year?
Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:14 pm to nf
Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:14 pm to nf
do you think that this...
had something to do with this...
...and it wasn't a called roll out?
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Alexander got blown up again on the play an pushed back to within 2 yards of Mett.
had something to do with this...
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Tell me again how rolling your horribly immobile quarterback to the side of your line that had been getting destroyed all night
...and it wasn't a called roll out?
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Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:07 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Ummm no it wasn't.
He throws from the LSU 35 and Landry is at the Clemson 53, so 17 yards.
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Actually, quite a number of posters on here have liked the 2nd down play call and recognized that Mett missed an open WR.
This is why I said OBJECTIVE observers. Even if it had worked it's still a stupid playcall. When a bad decision works out well it doesn't make it a good decision. For this team, in this situation, that was a bad decision and you saw exactly why. The 3rd down pass just added fuel to the fire.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:11 pm to Choctaw
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had something to do with this...
Well, normally you would roll your QB away from pressure, not directly into it, but I guess if we're going by the "Les Miles: give them something they don't expect" school of coaching they would be thrown off by the QB running right towards the defender coming around the outside. Of course they'd be surprised by punting on first down too, so maybe we should try that. It couldn't be much worse than the usual offense most of the time.
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...and it wasn't a called roll out?
Are you basing this on the fact that it looks exactly like a designed rollout and that would be far too stupid a play so it MUST have been something different?
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:15 pm to Sev09
I'm just happy a junior is talking about his senior year.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:38 pm to BhamTigah
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I can promise everybody out there that no one’s going to work harder on this team than I am to put this behind me and go out and have a great year
I want to hear this from Miles and the Offensive coaching staff!!
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:55 pm to nf
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He throws from the LSU 35 and Landry is at the Clemson 53, so 17 yards.
Couple things.
1. What the fuk is the Clemson 53? You mean the 47?
2. The LOS was the LSU 47 yard line. Most people dont say "He threw an 18 yard pass" because the QB threw the ball from behind the LOS. If the pass were completed at the 47 and the LOS was the 47 it would have been a 6 yard pass. Not 18. I mean at this point why not count the distance the pass had to go sideways. Mett threw it to his right while on the run so the ball probably traveled an additional 6-8 yards to get that far up the field. So why not call it a 26 yard pass?
Just like they don't call a punt that travels 65 yards a 65 yard punt. It is a 50 yard punt.
3. I don't remember exactly where Mett was, but I would be inclined to disagree that he was 12 yards behind the LOS on a simple PA roll out from under center.
ETA: And just to be a dick since you are being so exact about how far the pass traveled in the air...Mett did not throw from the 35...he was standing at about the 37 when he released it.
This post was edited on 1/9/13 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:56 pm to Braedan
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Mettsiah for Heisman
Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:59 pm to nf
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Well, normally you would roll your QB away from pressure, not directly into it, but I guess if we're going by the "Les Miles: give them something they don't expect" school of coaching they would be thrown off by the QB running right towards the defender coming around the outside. Of course they'd be surprised by punting on first down too, so maybe we should try that. It couldn't be much worse than the usual offense most of the time.
You must not be very smart. It was a play action pass designed to roll out to the right side of the field where Landry was running to. I guess he should have seen the Vadal Alexander would get pushed backwards and there would be pressure right in his face while he was faking the handoff in the backfield.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:07 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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You must not be very smart. It was a play action pass designed to roll out to the right side of the field where Landry was running to. I guess he should have seen the Vadal Alexander would get pushed backwards and there would be pressure right in his face while he was faking the handoff in the backfield.
I'm not blaming Mett, I'm blaming the offensive coordinator who decided it would be a good idea to roll the QB to the right when the DE had been getting around the right tackle on the outside all game long.
Mett ends up having to throw 17 yards for a 4 yard pass because he has to roll that far back to keep from giving the DE an inside path straight to him.
You can defend it all you want but there's not a single non-LSU fan out there who thinks it was a good call. Even the announcers were taken aback by the decision to throw the ball there and not force Clemson to use timeouts. That was bad enough, but the actual play that was called didn't even play to the teams strengths, which are definitely not a QB who can throw on the run and a right tackle who can manage not to get pushed 10 yards back.
Also, Mett's back foot is on the 36 yard line.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:13 pm to nf
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Even the announcers were taken aback by the decision to throw the ball there and not force Clemson to use timeouts.
The announcers were also confused when we threw on third down and short to Beckham and he got a HUGE gain against Arkansas. Did that make that a bad call also?
So I guess that every single time when you are in a late situation you should run the ball every play no matter what regardless of what the defense looks like (9 or 10 in the box) just so the other team has to use the TOs and not actually try to pick up the first down with something you think might work?
Did you complain after the Bama game when we ran the ball right up the middle and made them burn their TOs instead of trying to throw for a first down?
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a right tackle who can manage not to get pushed 10 yards back.
Vadal Alexander has played great since he started starting, so this is a completely ignorant statement.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:15 pm to dgnx6
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First the dude has accuracy problems no matter how you slice it. Second he is slow, slow delivwry, slow getting out the pocket. Some sacks were his fault, period end if story. Next his ball security could have cost us more games and hurt us against florida. The guy also seemed like a joker, he wasnt ready to lead. The starting job was his, why didnt he do this last season?
He's certainly not the only problem with the O but I just don't think he took the QB/leadership role seriously...in 2011 or early 2012. When he called that bootleg for td in 2011 and Les got all pissed off I really wondered.
College football is pressure packed and we all have different ways of dealing with pressure/stress. Hopefully he gets it together next year.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:39 pm to Sev09
he will lead from tigerland!
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:44 pm to Sev09
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Anyone think he's really serious about this and will have a huge senior year?
At least he's saying the right things. Remains to be seen whether he'll follow through with it but it's much better than what JJ had to say after 1/9.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:53 pm to UncleLogger
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A great senior year means lots of partying.
Two freshmen told me just last night that he's seen out doing just that quite often. They weren't surprised he had some issues on the field this season. Made them mad.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:38 pm to Gris Gris
Mett to enter the draft.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:49 pm to Sev09
How about a little O-line help 
Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:53 pm to Gris Gris
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Two freshmen told me just last night that he's seen out doing just that quite often.
Yeah that's not true. Mett didn't hang out at Reggie's which is just about the only place freshmen can go.
And I havn't personally seen Mett at Bojangles since the big bomb threat party.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:55 pm to Tha Herg
Wasn't Reggie's. I don't recall the place. I hope it's not true.
Posted on 1/9/13 at 7:00 pm to Sev09
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Anyone think he's really serious about this and will have a huge senior year?
Oh, he really means it alright. It's a money year for him. NFL needs quarterbacks, and a great year from him earns him a big payday.
Problem is not Met. The offensive problems at LSU are well cataloged. Coaching. Only on offense.
Wish Met the best!
Posted on 1/9/13 at 7:01 pm to Sev09
Won't matter unless the O-Line can get it together.
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