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Would a running/mobile QB help or hurt Guice and LF's ypc average?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:39 pm
Of course it would be good if our QB was a run threat as well as a good passer but do you think Guice et al would find more or less running room?
For comparison:
Bama's RB Damien Harris averages 8.1 ypc and Guice averages 8.0 ypc.
Bama's QB Hurts has 840 rushing yds (5.5 ypc) while Etling has 44 yds rushing (1.2 ypc).
Discuss
For comparison:
Bama's RB Damien Harris averages 8.1 ypc and Guice averages 8.0 ypc.
Bama's QB Hurts has 840 rushing yds (5.5 ypc) while Etling has 44 yds rushing (1.2 ypc).
Discuss
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:42 pm to The Mick
I believe that running the option with a mobile q.b. would definitely benefit the two.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:42 pm to The Mick
quote:
Guice et al would find more or less running room?
Less. Teams need to respect that you'll hit them with the pass, otherwise they play downhill and load the box.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:43 pm to The Mick
I think that if spread offenses were so great, that at least one of the 32 NFL teams would be running one!
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:53 pm to The Mick
Any other option besides the RB helps their chancws of success.
LF7 gets keyed on because hey don't respect our QB and WR to be anywhere near the threat.
LF7 gets keyed on because hey don't respect our QB and WR to be anywhere near the threat.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:55 pm to ole yeller
A mobile QB definitely helps the running game. The threat of the QB picking up yards with his feet causes the linebackers to hold instead of immediately attacking downhill to tackle the rb.
New England runs a spread offense by the way.
New England runs a spread offense by the way.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:57 pm to ole yeller
The talent gap in the NFL isn't big enough to run a spread offense. You can only have so many play makers on a roster.
It's different on college. Just think of all the offensive weapons LSU has. A spread offense allows you to have more play makers on the field at a time.
It's different on college. Just think of all the offensive weapons LSU has. A spread offense allows you to have more play makers on the field at a time.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:03 pm to The Mick
I think more often than not a QB running is a product of a pass play collapsing rather than actual designed running plays. If anything the receivers hurt from it.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:05 pm to ole yeller
Spread offenses in college are useful because it's a way to spread defenders out without having a QB who can routinely throw a 10 yard-out to the sideline on the opposite hash.
Every NFL QB can throw to the wide side of the field with accuracy, velocity and on-time in sync with their receiver. They have the talent and have put in the hours of practice with their WR's. Most college QB's don't have the talent, so D coordinators are free to align personnel elsewhere.
Every NFL QB can throw to the wide side of the field with accuracy, velocity and on-time in sync with their receiver. They have the talent and have put in the hours of practice with their WR's. Most college QB's don't have the talent, so D coordinators are free to align personnel elsewhere.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:06 pm to RBWilliams8
The recievers may hurt from it, but I can promise you that our 3rd down competion percentage wouldn't.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:13 pm to Wind
quote:
Less. Teams need to respect that you'll hit them with the pass, otherwise they play downhill and load the box.
well, if the QB is someone like Hurts, then you do still have to respect the pass.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:20 pm to The Mick
It's strictly a numbers game at the point of attack
LSU is always down 1 man at the point of attack b/c our QBs are not a viable option to run the ball.
When the defense has to respect the QB's ability to run, everything opens up.
LSU's QBs have been fragile and treated like they are wearing red jerseys. Harris is not a good runner. Etling is a poor runner. Go back and watch him at the goal line and pylon vs FL, awkward to say the least.
Last good rushing performance from our QB position was Jennings vs Texas A&M, and he wasn't even running a true read. He was designated to keep or handoff on every play. And the only reason I think we even allowed that was because it was last game of season and we had decided Harris would probably get the job the following season, so less concern of injury.
LSU is always down 1 man at the point of attack b/c our QBs are not a viable option to run the ball.
When the defense has to respect the QB's ability to run, everything opens up.
LSU's QBs have been fragile and treated like they are wearing red jerseys. Harris is not a good runner. Etling is a poor runner. Go back and watch him at the goal line and pylon vs FL, awkward to say the least.
Last good rushing performance from our QB position was Jennings vs Texas A&M, and he wasn't even running a true read. He was designated to keep or handoff on every play. And the only reason I think we even allowed that was because it was last game of season and we had decided Harris would probably get the job the following season, so less concern of injury.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:24 pm to The Mick
A QB that is also a threat, arm or legs, will help our RBs.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:27 pm to ole yeller
The linebackers and defensive ends in the NFL are as fast as a lot of the running backs.
That's why it doesn't work in the NFL.
That's why it doesn't work in the NFL.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:47 pm to ole yeller
quote:
I think that if spread offenses were so great, that at least one of the 32 NFL teams would be running one!
IIRC
NFL receivers are not allowed to block until the QB throws the pass, college receivers can block at any time.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:52 pm to The Mick
Having an adequate pass attack will keep safeties from peaking in the backfield which will most definitely help the rbs ypc.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:55 pm to chity
quote:
IIRC
NFL receivers are not allowed to block until the QB throws the pass, college receivers can block at any time.
Well this isnt true. 5 yards brother. Dbs can chuck the wr within 5 yards. You think wr isnt allowed?
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:19 pm to The Mick
What people fail to realize is a dual threat means that you can both run and pass. If a QB is labeled a dual threat but can't pass then he is not really a dual threat and the D will stack the line knowing you can't pass. A true dual threat improves all areas of the offense. A spy takes a defender out of pass defense. The pass rush becomes slowed as the DL is forced to play contain helping protection. The LBs freeze on run plays because they have to respect the QB keep. Everyone benefits from a true dual threat.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 3:21 pm
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