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Worst Defense to Win National Championship Recently?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:24 pm
Right now LSU is ranked 25th in the country in total defense and is outside the top 30 in opposing TDs. While those certainly aren't horrible rankings, I do wonder historically how top teams that did not have "elite" defenses have fared. Has there been a recent team with a defense similarly situated to LSU (or worse) to win it all?
EDIT: So it looks like 2014 Ohio State and 2010 Auburn are the only recent National Champs with a similar (or worse) defensive ranking to what LSU has now. Obviously those numbers are skewed by strength of schedule however. Thoughts?
EDIT: So it looks like 2014 Ohio State and 2010 Auburn are the only recent National Champs with a similar (or worse) defensive ranking to what LSU has now. Obviously those numbers are skewed by strength of schedule however. Thoughts?
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 2:08 pm
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:25 pm to PhillyFan1994
Good question
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:25 pm to PhillyFan1994
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to PhillyFan1994
Alabama at 36th you say... 
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to PhillyFan1994
Probably 2013 Auburn.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:30 pm to PhillyFan1994
Ohio State in 2014 was 26th in scoring
Auburn in 2010 was 56th in scoring.
Auburn in 2010 was 56th in scoring.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:30 pm to PhillyFan1994
Also, you have to think other teams will come back towards the mean this season as they play tougher schedules. LSU has played a tough schedule so far compared to most.
And we have these teams left to play and their scoring offense rank (Against D1 only):
Mississippi State - 70th
Ole Miss - 80th
Arkansas - 60th
Texas A&M - 76th
and of course these:
Auburn - 31st
Alabama - 1st
And we have these teams left to play and their scoring offense rank (Against D1 only):
Mississippi State - 70th
Ole Miss - 80th
Arkansas - 60th
Texas A&M - 76th
and of course these:
Auburn - 31st
Alabama - 1st
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:31 pm to PhillyFan1994
Statistically, probably Auburn in 2010.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Here ya go
When sorted by passing yards.. YIKES!
For “DBU” no less
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:33 pm to TheCaterpillar
We are actually 1st vs P5
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:33 pm to PhillyFan1994
Auburn in 2010 was pretty bad!
TACKLES FOR LOSS...................25th
3RD DOWN DEFENSE.................41st
4TH DOWN DEFENSE.................45th
1ST DOWNS ALLOWED...............85th
PASS DEFENSE..........................105th
PASS EFFICIENCY DEFENSE.....75th
SACKS.........................................22nd
TACKLES FOR LOSS...................25th
3RD DOWN DEFENSE.................41st
4TH DOWN DEFENSE.................45th
1ST DOWNS ALLOWED...............85th
PASS DEFENSE..........................105th
PASS EFFICIENCY DEFENSE.....75th
SACKS.........................................22nd
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:36 pm to PhillyFan1994
Alabama went 14-1 last year giving up more YPG and 3 PPG fewer than LSU is right now. They were nearly identical on 3rd downs, opponents converted 34%.
A portion of the fan base is sky screaming about LSU's defense, and it's blown way out of proportion.
A portion of the fan base is sky screaming about LSU's defense, and it's blown way out of proportion.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:36 pm to CalRipkenJr
quote:
Auburn in 2010 was pretty bad!
Unfortunately Cam Newton was pretty damn good
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:37 pm to CalRipkenJr
Wow.
Just shows how good Cam Newton was. And Nick Fairley.
Just shows how good Cam Newton was. And Nick Fairley.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:38 pm to RB10
quote:
Probably 2013 Auburn.
Florida State definitely won in 2013. And they were the number 3 defense that year. So no.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:39 pm to Mississippi Tiger 7
quote:
Florida State definitely won in 2013. And they were the number 3 defense that year. So no.
Auburn won the SEC. No where in the OP does it specify "national championship".
So, yes, Auburn in 2013.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:40 pm to LSUfanNkaty
I think he most important defensive star is defensive SP+ which considers many different Things and is an advanced metric which accounts for when backups are in, when game is out of hand, etc, has bama 11 and LSU 36 I believe. Wish I had the link. People think this bama defense is bad but they are still a top 10 defense. We are getting there.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:41 pm to RB10
quote:
Auburn won the SEC. No where in the OP does it specify "national championship".
So, yes, Auburn in 2013.
I mean't national championship. Maybe I should have been clearer.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:42 pm to RB10
quote:
Alabama went 14-1 last year giving up more YPG and 3 PPG fewer than LSU is right now. They were nearly identical on 3rd downs, opponents converted 34%.
Alabama was a top 5 defense till the Championship game.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:43 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Alabama was a top 5 defense till the Championship game.
And LSU is top 12 or so without the Texas game, what's your point?
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