re: Worst 2 week decline in LSU history?

They're barely even average. Seriously, go look at their depth chart. They are not good.

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this thread is proof that many people never followed LSU football before 2003

1998 we were #6 in the country then lost 7 of the last 8 games

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In 1998, all but the last game against arkansas were close games and they couldn't win the close ones. There was no steep decline like this year. The past two game have been blowouts and you are a bitch.

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In 1998, all but the last game against arkansas were close games and they couldn't win the close ones. There was no steep decline like this year.

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7 out of 8 after being ranked #6

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The past two game have been blowouts and you are a bitch.

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never seen anything close to this

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I agree with some of the comparisons to 1998 - but we were still competitive in all those games as suggested. Like any bad team, we found ways to lose and it showed at the end.

For this recent drop - despite the squeaky finish of a couple of them, nobody doubted that we, generally, controlled those first 7 games. Not necessarily dominated, but that was more because we got big leads and tried to sit on them. We played with the lead and maintained the initiative most of the season.

We've averaged 12 points during the competitive phase of the last 2 games. 12 fricking points.

And the defense/special teams have not done well in keeping the score manageable, although they have been scrappy during stretches. Honestly, we were never in either game after the first quarter.

And that is what has brought us to thinking about the unthinkable.

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There was not a single person in Louisiana who was talking about coaching changes (aside from the situation with the special teams coach) or speaking negatively about the direction of the program. Has there ever been so steep and fast a change in fan sentiment in program history?

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Thinking, and articulating, are quite different. Nothing in the games prior to Bama gave me the belief that a team that struggled it's arse off to get plays called, penalized to an extreme, etc, would struggle at the Carrier Dome the way they did other than the anointed one known as Fournette carrying the team. The results up to 7-0 were due to having caught teams at good times for LSU (ie, playing at least 4 teams that were starting backup QBs, all home games, AU & USC when they were really struggling, etc), and hanging on at MSU. Nothing about the #2 national ranking was truly believable at that point other than LF was a really good RB and an upper classman DB still showing he had no clue what to do on the field which continues. Something is up with the coach, it is hard to fathom how little improvement has been made after 11 weeks of regular season - 9 games, 1 little bit of lagniappe to start what became a non-game, and a bye week. Miles just seems totally disconnected to what other programs are doing in the SEC and how to get his guys ready to compete vs legit competition. It's like Richt losing his long time right hand man in Mike Bobo and his passing O going to shite this year. Oh, he no longer has a cadre of elite 3+ year starting QBs to put on the field every season, yet the same OL he has from last year looks like dog shite this season. Can't explain that, either.

I remember sitting in the stadium for the Arkie 2007 game, 5 OT's (6?), and wondering if Pelini's D would ever consider stopping one of the 3 headed hydra out of Arkansas' backfield that day, and truly believing that LSU had lost a golden opp for the MNC game. Life is full of ups and downs and teams can be beaten in many odd ways, but the last two weeks of mediocrity have been, not eye opening, but almost unbelievable in the pitiful level of play which was seemingly transferred to the special teams coverage units game 1 and thereafter. Bama is legit if they play well, all the other teams should be beatable with good play and some good fortune, but the Tigers are becoming great at making that look like a herculean task these days.

I only allow myself die hard status for one thing now, and that's LSU football.

I took the Bama loss best I ever have. The Arkansas loss never caused me to even raise my voice. After a loss, I typically can't sleep well and wake up remembering the loss first thing. None of that has happened these last 2 games.

Coming from someone who owns 9 season tickets, this can't be a good sign for Miles or the LSU football program. If you just took a look around the stadium Saturday night, it should have been evident. Or maybe the fact I gave 3 of mine away, IDK.

I know better why I have reached this conclusion for the final time though. There is not a single doubt in my mind that Miles is incapable of identifying and/or developing the QB position. And when I watched the second and G play before our last TD vs Bama, it was crystal clear after watching our offense get to the line down by 20 w 10 minutes left, staring at the sideline at the LOS for 12 full seconds, then call TO.

When trailing to ARK by 2 scores w 3rd and 3 at their 40 yard line, we use a TO due to confusion to get in "I" formation. A high school staff knows it's going to go for it on 4th down in that situation, if they don't make it on third, which we did. But the fact we used a TO there is all anyone needs to know.

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If I had to say it was a single thing - it is injuries all across the OL - but for them to manifest so suddenly?

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no, that's not it.

We didn't match up well vs. Arkansas or Bama. Steele's weaknesses were evident by the Florida game (DE's being responsible for covering TE's downfield says about all you need to know), but it's the lazy recruiting of Chavis that puts us at a disadvantage against downhill running teams.

Over the season, they never attempted to develop the short passing game. Easy throws to settle-down the QB is not part of the offense besides the FB play action roll-out (which BH even managed to throw a pick on).

This means you will lose against teams not able to be dominated by our O-Line.

We wait till someone can stop the run and then have nothing to fall back on. Then we have to do something dumbass like come out in the shotgun at game 8 when we only have 2 runs out of the formation and our best player is a RB.

I'd like to say we match up well vs. OM but Cam's chunk-it-deep-or-not-at-all offense (likely hamstrung by Miles's I-Form) is playing right into OM's hands.

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quote: no, that's not it.

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Poor offensive philosophy. Failure to develop a legit passing game and use all our weapons. Predictable play calling. Inadequate game planning to attack our opponent's weaknesses. Thin DL and LB. Too many penalties. Lack of motivation.

Enough for you, nimrod?