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Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:17 am to Camo Tiger 337
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Also what was his vertical? Think I read like bottom 5 of all receivers who competed?
28.5, sECOnd lowest out of all WR's at the combine. Hoping it was just the injury that limited him at the cmbvine in which case I don't even see why he competed. He was a great receiver at LSU but hard to see him do the same thing in the pros if he really is that limited physically. Hope he has a good showing at pro day.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:21 am to boxcar willie
Oh wow...
Hope it was the injury, but I asked myself the same thing, why'd he compete.. but I guess that's just his will and toughness that took over to make this decision for him.
Hope it was the injury, but I asked myself the same thing, why'd he compete.. but I guess that's just his will and toughness that took over to make this decision for him.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:27 am to harry coleman beast
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He was injured
his agent should be fired then
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:28 am to Bear Is Dead
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If he runs a good 40 time (like 4.6s) it will boost him back up pretty quick.
his vertical is honestly more important. Drew Brees had a more athletic combine than he did
I think he was injured, no way does he have a sub 30 vertical. Lance Moore's was 40 coming out.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:32 am to IsaacBrown2
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He is not fast and due to him not being 6'3-6'4
6'1
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He is one of those prospects that scouts don't really care how he runs. They see skills that not many have that reflect better during games and not in a workout. He is so tough, smart and has the work ethic NFL coaches love. Trust me there are teams hoping he slides to them in the 2nd.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:32 am to TigerBait1127
He got injured while running his 1st 40. That affected every other drill.
But as some have said, he is not a super athlete, just a great FOOTBALL player. All the coaches and scouts recognize that more than people think. 2nd round is his floor and ceiling. He is superb as a WR and teams know that speed is not his thing no matter how he runs today, but also know his other qualities are light years ahead of everyone else. That equals 2nd round.
But as some have said, he is not a super athlete, just a great FOOTBALL player. All the coaches and scouts recognize that more than people think. 2nd round is his floor and ceiling. He is superb as a WR and teams know that speed is not his thing no matter how he runs today, but also know his other qualities are light years ahead of everyone else. That equals 2nd round.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:33 am to TigerBait1127
Tigerbait...
What is funny about that? And Jarvis is 6'0 not 6'1. He was measured at 5'11 by scouts.
What is funny about that? And Jarvis is 6'0 not 6'1. He was measured at 5'11 by scouts.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:38 am to TigerBait1127
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his vertical is honestly more important.
4.77 is just a glaring number he needs to wipe off of the board IMO.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:52 am to IsaacBrown2
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But as some have said, he is not a super athlete
but he still needs to show at least average speed and jumping ability to go in the 2nd round.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:54 am to IsaacBrown2
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That equals 2nd round.
not unless he improves his combine #s
There have been plenty of football players with great skills that haven't panned out due to lack of talent.
If he can't get separation and has no explosiveness, he won't be taken early. The vertical is far more important. GMs don't like their QBs throwing into traffic
Posted on 4/9/14 at 10:55 am to IsaacBrown2
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What is funny about that? And Jarvis is 6'0 not 6'1. He was measured at 5'11 by scouts.
So why did you say he was 6'4?
And it is funny b/c scouts care how he runs and jumps.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:02 am to TigerBait1127
Here was my entire post.....
I think he goes in the second no matter what. He is not fast and due to him not being 6'3-6'4, he would need to run in the 4.4s. But every team will look at his film and no way he gets out of the 2nd. I could see the Pats trading out of the 1st round with a team trying to trade back in and the Pats taking him at the top of the 2nd.
He is one of those prospects that scouts don't really care how he runs. They see skills that not many have that reflect better during games and not in a workout. He is so tough, smart and has the work ethic NFL coaches love. Trust me there are teams hoping he slides to them in the 2nd.
I said he was not 6'3-6'4....so he would NEED to run 4.4 to get into the 1st. Read the entire post b4 you slam it. Also, not all scouts look for or want the same things. So, there will be a team who could care less. There have been WRs who also have speed and can jump who sucked. I think we all remember Hayward Bey and the kid from Ga Tech that the Jets drafted. I would bet the Pats feel not mater who the WR is, Tom could make him look good as long as he caught the ball and could understand the offense. Sean Payton knows Drew could do the same. So not all teams, systems and philosophies are the same when it comes to the draft and scouting.
I think he goes in the second no matter what. He is not fast and due to him not being 6'3-6'4, he would need to run in the 4.4s. But every team will look at his film and no way he gets out of the 2nd. I could see the Pats trading out of the 1st round with a team trying to trade back in and the Pats taking him at the top of the 2nd.
He is one of those prospects that scouts don't really care how he runs. They see skills that not many have that reflect better during games and not in a workout. He is so tough, smart and has the work ethic NFL coaches love. Trust me there are teams hoping he slides to them in the 2nd.
I said he was not 6'3-6'4....so he would NEED to run 4.4 to get into the 1st. Read the entire post b4 you slam it. Also, not all scouts look for or want the same things. So, there will be a team who could care less. There have been WRs who also have speed and can jump who sucked. I think we all remember Hayward Bey and the kid from Ga Tech that the Jets drafted. I would bet the Pats feel not mater who the WR is, Tom could make him look good as long as he caught the ball and could understand the offense. Sean Payton knows Drew could do the same. So not all teams, systems and philosophies are the same when it comes to the draft and scouting.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:04 am to TigerBait1127
quote:Plenty of Heisman winners and All-Americans at that, too.
There have been plenty of football players with great skills that haven't panned out due to lack of talent.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:10 am to IsaacBrown2
Also, because of all the rule changes, it is much easier to separate as a WR then it was years ago. Offenses are more specialized and Jarvis is going to play more slot than anything. None of Seattle's WRs are as good as Jarvis and they seem to get open. If Keenan Allen can go play with Phillip Rivers and catch 71 balls with 8 TDs as a rookie, I think Jarvis will do fine.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:11 am to IsaacBrown2
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He is not fast and due to him not being 6'3-6'4,
Sorry, misread it. That is an even worst point. There are plenty of players with his height that run in the 4.4s and under
He would be a borderline 1st round pick at 4.5 and would certainly be one in any other year
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There have been WRs who also have speed and can jump who sucked.
and there have been FAR more that have failed due to lack of speed.
Mike Haas comes to mind. Similar size to Landry, actually faster. Great work ethic, great route runner, great hands. Didn't make it.
Andy Tanner can't make it despite being another good route runner who can make contested catches.
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Sean Payton knows Drew could do the same. So not all teams, systems and philosophies are the same when it comes to the draft and scouting.
He would rather the guy who can actually create separation... Mike Haas is the only player I can think of that we drafted that is similar to Landry. I would love for the Saints to get Landry in the 2nd or 3rd
He could make up for the speed with his route running ability. If his vertical stays sub-30, I just don't see him being taken early.
I think his vertical is a lot better than the 27 he put up
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:17 am to IsaacBrown2
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Offenses are more specialized and Jarvis is going to play more slot than anything.
Possibly, which is why I said his vertical is important. He needs to show some kind of explosiveness at the pro day
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None of Seattle's WRs are as good as Jarvis and they seem to get open.
Percy Harvin and Golden Tate have trouble getting open? Seattle lives on the deep ball
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:23 am to IsaacBrown2
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None of Seattle's WRs are as good as Jarvis and they seem to get open
wut
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:28 am to Bear Is Dead
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wut
Just looked it up, Seattle's receivers all run under a 4.5
They have that nasty speed to go along with that running game. Really just an awesome combo
Colston and Graham are the Saints slot receivers. He doesn't really fit that mold. I would still love to have him at the right value (b/c he's going to have a good day today)
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:46 am to TigerBait1127
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Seattle's receivers all run under a 4.5
What receivers?
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