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Why Was LSU Ranked So High to Start the Season?

Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:25 am
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:25 am
We certainly did not deserve a Top 5 ranking.

If you look at the last two seasons, LSU finished unranked in one and 20-ish in the other.

We had an unproven QB.

An offensive line that has been overrated the last two years.

What were the prognosticators basing a Top 5 projection off of? Name recognition? An RB with Heisman "potential," but never actually finished with any Heisman votes?

LF7 is an outstanding RB, no question, but he does not have a great supporting cast. He more than provides the rushing attack, has a great filler in Guice, but he has no passing game to support his efforts, and his offensive line has proven they have no answer for Bama's front 7.

When we look back at the 2016 season, it should be viewed as an underachievement, sure, but I think the fall from the Top 5 to the #22 is a little unfair to this team. This was a Top 15 team at best.



Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10170 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:26 am to
They should have achieved more than they did. Should be a 1 loss team right now, but then there's coaching.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61077 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:27 am to
So ESPN can do their end of the season bit.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11905 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:27 am to
18 returning starters, loaded with potential NFL talent, favorable schedule all add up to high expectations and rankings.

Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36312 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:27 am to
Media did not believe Les was a bad coach, we returned like 18 starters. Overall a terrible season.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55979 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:29 am to
pre-season polls are nothing more than media hype to get fans interested. we had a lot of seniors plus a potential Heisman candidate, so we made for a good story line. happens every year to a few teams...think about Ole miss & Tennessee this year...
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:31 am to
quote:

We had an unproven QB.


We had a QB going into his JR year. He had a very average season his Soph year, but it certainly wasn't as bad as fans think.

quote:

An offensive line that has been overrated the last two years.


Well, they're still considered a top 10 unit in the country even after going 7-4

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LF7 is an outstanding RB, no question, but he does not have a great supporting cast. He more than provides the rushing attack, has a great filler in Guice, but he has no passing game to support his efforts, and his offensive line has proven they have no answer for Bama's front 7.


This is Hindsight. Dupre was a 1st round consideration coming into the year, Dural has been our best receiver the last 2 years, Chark is a baller. And yea, LF and Guice are 2 top 5 backs in the country

quote:

This was a Top 15 team at best.


No. We lost to Wisconsin by throwing an int in their territory to end the game (if Les just ran Guice we win that game). We lost to Auburn only after it was reviewed, we initially won...and both of those games we were a POORLY coached team. Took Bama to the wire, only team to do so (Ole Miss was down 3 scores with 2 minutes left, got lucky with onside kicks). Florida we got stopped on the 1 foot line to end the game.

LSU is EXTREMELY close to being 10-1 and in the playoffs, and it has been an insanely tumultuous year. This is EASILY a top 5 talent team

BTW, nowhere in there did you mention we have the 2nd best defense behind Alabama
Posted by Fenwick86
Member since May 2007
3515 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:35 am to
Because we had a lot of returning starters from last season including an experienced quarterback that showed potential, voters weren't going to under rate us based on CLM being awful.

LF7 - Guice - Beckwith - Adams - White - Neal - Key - Dupre

You think many teams have that much potential big time NFL talent like that on their roster? No. All the talent in the world can't overcome poor coaching.
Posted by The Belk
Member since Oct 2015
549 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:36 am to
Les Miles
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
6014 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:54 am to
Wisconsin,Auburn and Florida should have been Ws if not for boneheaded plays.
We would have been a top 5 team looking into the playoffs and pulling a Bama from 2011.
Ugh!!!!
Posted by topgun1676
Clinton, Maryland
Member since May 2007
1850 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:57 am to
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18 returning starters, loaded with potential NFL talent, favorable schedule all add up to high expectations and rankings.


All this including Heisman front runner, Leonard Fournette (injury free), Guice as the second best in the SEC.

Most importantly, everyone was banking that QB Brandon Harris could possibly be an All-SEC Performer with another year of experience.
Posted by BOZ4LSU
A place
Member since Jan 2012
2390 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:57 am to
LSU can play with anybody in the top 10 in the final rankings this weekend. coulda woulda shoulda
Posted by HoumaTigerFan
Member since Jan 2008
5467 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:59 am to
They thought LSU would beat Wisconsin, Auburn and Florida. Honestly there's coaching that prevented that from happening.

LSU would be sitting 10-1 if they took care of business like they should have.

Pollsters didn't think Les would regress in game day coaching. He did.

5 was right without silly coaching.

McElroy still thinks LSU is 2nd best team in SEC.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Why Was LSU Ranked So High to Start the Season?


Because no one that was ranking realized that we actually kept Les Miles as the HC to start the season. They thought he got fired last year.

Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:29 pm to
We were ranked appropriately IMO.

LSU should be 11-1 right now and ranked about #4-8, regardless of coach.

Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12261 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:34 pm to
We had all the pieces in place except for a properly developed QB. Last time I checked a couple of weeks ago the Vegas power rankings still had us #3 in the country behind Ala. and Ohio State. Those people know more about how to rate football teams than anyone.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8708 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

We certainly did not deserve a Top 5 ranking.

If you look at the last two seasons, LSU finished unranked in one and 20-ish in the other.

We had an unproven QB.

An offensive line that has been overrated the last two years.

What were the prognosticators basing a Top 5 projection off of? Name recognition? An RB with Heisman "potential," but never actually finished with any Heisman votes?

LF7 is an outstanding RB, no question, but he does not have a great supporting cast. He more than provides the rushing attack, has a great filler in Guice, but he has no passing game to support his efforts, and his offensive line has proven they have no answer for Bama's front 7.

When we look back at the 2016 season, it should be viewed as an underachievement, sure, but I think the fall from the Top 5 to the #22 is a little unfair to this team. This was a Top 15 team at best.




do you even follow LSU football ?

as others have pointed out ...18 returning starters with a favorable schedule and the Heisman frontrunner


prior to the 2016 season, more bets were placed on LSU to win the NC than any other team

what people failed to realize is our moronic, grass-eatin' HC couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag


.
Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:29 pm to
If LSU was a one loss team to Alabama by 10 they would NOT get the BAMA treatment. They would be on the outside looking in and left out of the playoff system.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:47 pm to
18 returning starters
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
61867 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:50 pm to
Based on Talent. Vegas had us favored in 10 of eleven games. If we had done that we'd be sitting at home today wondering who we would be playing in the first round of the playoff. But hey Les and Coach O are great guys
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