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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:11 pm to dukke v
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dukke v
Whatever you want to believe, seriously. I Have watched you completely melt down on here NUMEROUS times. I'm a punk because I don't believe or agree with all the doom and gloom and fire everyone philosophy....ok....a punk I am then.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:13 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I Have watched you completely melt down on here NUMEROUS times
So you are an alter?????
PUNK....... quote:
I'm a punk because I don't believe or agree with all the doom and gloom and fire everyone philosophy
Not at all... Your are a punk cause you have zero sense of reality...
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:17 pm to dukke v
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you have zero sense of reality...
being realistic and using common sense is probably the best asset I have in life.
BUT, I'll bite....please do enlighten me on what I am not being realistic on? That LSU goes 7-5 to 8-4 this year? That LSU is very young, and will be significantly better next year? That Les Miles has led LSU to be the third best program over the past decade, in terms of average top 25 finish? Please, let me know.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:21 pm to AlaTiger
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Why Should We Think that LSU Will Compete for a NC in 2015?
Really, you (and whoever else is included in that communal "we") should think whatever the hell you want. It doesn't make much of a difference what you think or why you think it.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:26 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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being realistic and using common sense is probably the best asset I have in life.
Ok I'll BITE............
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That LSU goes 7-5 to 8-4 this year?
Very possible...
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That LSU is very young, and will be significantly better next year?
IF you read my original post, I said THIS team will be talked about as the team that has SO MUCH GREAT talent and went 6-6.[Possible].
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That Les Miles has led LSU to be the third best program over the past decade, in terms of average top 25 finish? Please, let me know.
Ad of RIGHT NOW.. Miles looks like a fool withal this SO-CALLED talent... This team was not even CLOSE to ready last week....... If you can't see that I CAN'T help ya........
I have been an LSU fan for over 40 years.. I know what I am seeing...
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:28 pm to AlaTiger
quote:All very good questions. I don't see it either. I also don't see us winning another game this year unless our line play on both sides improves dramatically.
I am not trying to be pessimistic, but we lose a bunch on the OLine and both DEs. Dural probably goes pro. Mills will be gone. Will the middle of our defense get better? We are saying that Harris, Fournette, Dupre, and Quinn having another year under their belts will make us a NC contender. I don't see it. We are weak on the lines and our scheme is terrible. What will one more year do to make us contenders next year? Where is the strength coming from? How do we fix the defense? If the team gells and suddenly steps up and we win some of these games coming up and finish 8-4 or so, then okay. Maybe we can make the jump next year. But, if we are only as good as we looked against State and Auburn and we lose the guys we are going to lose for next year, then where does the improvement come from to suddenly vault us into the National Title conversation? I am asking.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:34 pm to AlaTiger
Not saying we will but Ole Miss and Miss State won't be what they are, so that's a reason.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:39 pm to dukke v
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I have been an LSU fan for over 40 years.. I know what I am seeing...
honestly, seeing how you melt on here, that is very, very sad. I can see kids doing that...but someone in their 50's, over a game played by kids. Wow.
I have been a season ticket holder paying higher and higher fees since 1988.....I think I know what I'm seeing as well. I just have the ability not to flip my shite over a couple of games. Give me a season, and I may change my tune...but not over a couple of games where one or two players make a huge difference....and those players have a chance to significantly improve.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:39 pm to AlaTiger
44/70 players on the depth chart are underclassmen. Game planning isn't the problem. Harris himself admitted it was a great gameplan and he just didn't make the plays. And Chavis didn't suddenly forget how to coach or call plays. He's been game planning for spread offenses for years. This isn't new to him. We just have too many young players right now.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:42 pm to otowntiger
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otowntiger
You and the OP should get a room....seriously. I think y'all are a perfect match. Two doom and gloom, sky is falling, earth is ending, LSU won't win another game this year....type of guys....it speaks well for your critical reasoning skills. Have you got your excuses prepared already for when LSU wins a few games suddenly.......let me guess...well it was just Florida and Kentucky.....etc.....same ole' shite, different day.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:47 pm to goatman1419
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So another Miles offense is terrible thread. Good job of covering it up for two paragraphs.....please go listen to the interview on this page and listen to it again. Then you may not sound so dumb the next I miss Saban thread you start.
When have I ever started an "I miss Saban" thread?
This has nothig to do with Saban. Maybe you are the one who has him on your mind all of the time?
Yes, our scheme is terrible. We went 0-13 on third down. Blame the players for everything? Ok. Yet, somehow, Mid Majors can put a functioning offense on the field and LSU cannot.
LSU has had a good offense in 3 of Miles' 10 seasons. He has had 5 offensive coordinators in 10 seasons. Yet, the scheme has essentially stayed the same with a few wrinkles here and there adjusted for the different OC's. It seems that the OC has the MOST freedom in his first year under Miles and then after a couple of years the offense starts looking the same as it did with the guy before and the OC gets fired.
There is one constant through all of it.
But, hey, let's not criticize our coach at all. LSU is 5-5 in our last 10 SEC games, but let's not think that there may be a problem.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:51 pm to AlaTiger
I completel undertand why someone would be skeptical about the future.
We are losing Lael, Porter, and most likely Vadal Alexaner on the OL. Odds are Dural goes as well. And on D, we lose Rasco, most likely Hunter, Welter, most likely Kwon, Ronald Martin, most likely Mills as well.
We are losing a lot. However, if Vadal stays, that will help a lot. Same with Kwon and Dural, but i think its safe to say they both are gone. Dural has been great this year, even without spotty QB play, and Kwon has been our best defensive player for these last 2 seasons and is a very good player.
But, Harris, LF, DWill, Dupre, Quinn, Pocic, Hawkins, Godchaux, Bain, Herron, Neal, Bower, Debo, Beckwith, LL, CG3, Tre White, RR, Adams, Paris, etc all return and will be better.
And, we have some good young OL on the team right now in Boutte, Malone, and Dodd that will be solid players for us. Everyone has been really high on those young OL. And, Valentine will be able to play (hopefully) and help us improve in the middle.
And we already have some really good guys committed to us right now for the 2015 recruiting class in Guice, Teuhema, Kevin Toliver, Cutrer, Magee, etc coming in.
We will be better on D. Regardless who we lose. And I think the OL will be better too. Its not like they are good this year anyways.
But, the biggest reason why I think we will be improved is because of Harris. Yeah he struggled vs Auburn, which was expected. If you thought he was gonna go in there and shred Auburn like he did vs New Mexico St, you arent living in the real world. He will get more comfortable and improve as this season goes on, and will be ready for next year.
I agree completely that the scheme is terrible. And I dont think 2015 is the year we become a title contender, but I do think 2016 is. And think we could be there next year as well, just gotta see how much these youngsters grow as the season goes on and what kinda jump they take next season. They have a LOT of talent and potential and a lot of those young guys are already seeing major PT out there. All they will do is get better.
We are losing Lael, Porter, and most likely Vadal Alexaner on the OL. Odds are Dural goes as well. And on D, we lose Rasco, most likely Hunter, Welter, most likely Kwon, Ronald Martin, most likely Mills as well.
We are losing a lot. However, if Vadal stays, that will help a lot. Same with Kwon and Dural, but i think its safe to say they both are gone. Dural has been great this year, even without spotty QB play, and Kwon has been our best defensive player for these last 2 seasons and is a very good player.
But, Harris, LF, DWill, Dupre, Quinn, Pocic, Hawkins, Godchaux, Bain, Herron, Neal, Bower, Debo, Beckwith, LL, CG3, Tre White, RR, Adams, Paris, etc all return and will be better.
And, we have some good young OL on the team right now in Boutte, Malone, and Dodd that will be solid players for us. Everyone has been really high on those young OL. And, Valentine will be able to play (hopefully) and help us improve in the middle.
And we already have some really good guys committed to us right now for the 2015 recruiting class in Guice, Teuhema, Kevin Toliver, Cutrer, Magee, etc coming in.
We will be better on D. Regardless who we lose. And I think the OL will be better too. Its not like they are good this year anyways.
But, the biggest reason why I think we will be improved is because of Harris. Yeah he struggled vs Auburn, which was expected. If you thought he was gonna go in there and shred Auburn like he did vs New Mexico St, you arent living in the real world. He will get more comfortable and improve as this season goes on, and will be ready for next year.
I agree completely that the scheme is terrible. And I dont think 2015 is the year we become a title contender, but I do think 2016 is. And think we could be there next year as well, just gotta see how much these youngsters grow as the season goes on and what kinda jump they take next season. They have a LOT of talent and potential and a lot of those young guys are already seeing major PT out there. All they will do is get better.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:52 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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You and the OP should get a room....seriously. I think y'all are a perfect match. Two doom and gloom, sky is falling, earth is ending, LSU won't win another game this year....type of guys
You obviously don't know me. I have been really positive for my entire time on this board. I am realistic now. I am not trying to be negative.
Les Miles is a terrible offensive coach. Why can't you see that?
The problem is that offense is his thing. He is not a defensive coach. Chavis is not working any wonders with this lineup right now, either.
Les is at his best when he oversees the whole team and hires coordinators who have some creativity. Except, Les cannot stay out of the offense. He has a PHILOSOPHY that he wants implemented. That is all fine and well. Every head coach should be able to do that. But, even if he isn't calling the plays, his PHILOSOPHY is wrong. It no longer works.
Getting blown out at Auburn by the score of 41-7 just two weeks after getting tossed around by Miss. St. should cause one to rethink things. If the excuse is just that we are young, my question remains: How then are we going to get that much better next year?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just wow
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:54 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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honestly, seeing how you melt on here,
Where are you going here???
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that is very, very sad
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:57 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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honestly, seeing how you melt on here,
Where are you going here???
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that is very, very sad
SAD??? HOW.....
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. I can see kids doing that...but someone in their 50's, over a game played by kids. Wow.
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I have been a season ticket holder paying higher and higher fees since 1988..
Good for you...
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Give me a season, and I may change my tune...but not over a couple of games where one or two players make a huge difference....and those players have a chance to significantly improve.
Here is where we differ.. This team has talent.. BUT unproven and NOT coached right.... Look at other teams around the country that use the talent they have by using them for the reason they were recruited in the first place... Think about it,,,
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:59 pm to AlaTiger
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I am not trying to be negative.
YES, yes you are.
Do you know how many times we hear 3-5 in 2008, and how it was over, etc., etc., etc.,?
It would be one thing if we had an experienced team performing like this. BUT, we don't. It is expected, and I think you will see us improve dramatically going forward. If I'm wrong, I'll agree with you at year's end...but not before.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:03 pm to dukke v
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BUT unproven and NOT coached right.... Look at other teams around the country that use the talent they have
and yet, Miles still outperforms all of these other genius coaches over the long haul. Just imagine if he knew how to use our players correctly....well given the success he has had, if he would just use our players correctly, he may go down as the greatest coach in the history of the game....right? I mean, think about it.
oh, and yes sad...that you still have that over-reacting ability at your age....most people mature and gain wisdom with older age....but hey, I'm glass half full....
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:09 pm to AlaTiger
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I am not trying to be pessimistic,
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