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re: Why does KRob even play

Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:26 pm to
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Pap is a 6'3 195lb switch hitting beast. He was one of the best high school players in the country. Its very hard to find a catcher with his potential
Okay... that's all true and great... but you didn't address my point.

Why can't the same be said for KRob? Do only 6'3 195 lb catchers have the potential to get better?
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted by clownbaby
beezwacks not yours
Member since Jan 2009
962 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:26 pm to
That's the other thing. We're so freaking deep this year instead of arguing about benching JaCoby we're arguing about who to pinch hit.

Rants gonna rant
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Relative to what?


Relative to Kramer.
Foster has a .929 fielding percentage and 4 errors
Kramer has a .950 fld% and 2 errors in about half the starts

Im okay with Foster's play at 2B.. especially with his 7hrs
BOOM
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:30 pm to
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in about half the starts
How many starts does Foster have at 2B? He's had some at DH and some in the OF. So what you said doesn't really mean much.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

ell_13


I can't understand it for you and i don't have time to try



Edit: Is your name Rheagan by any chance?
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27810 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:34 pm to
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Foster has a .929 fielding percentage and 4 errors
Kramer has a .950 fld% and 2 errors in about half the starts

11 is half of 12? Interesting math.

ETA: I'm not arguing for him to start as Foster's bat has to be in the lineup. But lets not pretend he is a good defender.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:38 pm to
Good call. You need to understand it for yourself first.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:42 pm to
I don't know the exact amount of starts at second for both players, but Kramer has joined a few games and played 2B after not getting the "start". Regardless Foster has played a good amount of innings at second base and has done a fair job relative to KR. Perhaps you should look up the number of inning played by both of them, as if it matters
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:43 pm to
It matter becuase you're the one who brought stats into this.

And now you're trying to crawfish away as if they suddenly don't matter.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27810 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:44 pm to
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I don't know the exact amount of starts at second for both players

I took the 12 seconds to look it up, so I do.

ETA:
quote:

but Kramer has joined a few games and played 2B after not getting the "start".

I know you probably don't realize it, but this is actually an argument against your point.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31910 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:45 pm to
Y'all realize KRob was in because of an injury right?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14959 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

I don't know the exact amount of starts at second for both players


11 starts each. 20 assists for Kramer, 24 for Foster. Foster has a significantly higher number of PO, but the stats index doesn't break down by defense further than cumulative stats. Foster has an additional 9 starts split between LF/RF.



ETA: prior to today's game.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77379 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:57 pm to
Because Fraley was hurt? Did you watch the game?
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

I know you probably don't realize it, but this is actually an argument against your point.



Im trying to admit that I do not know the exact amount of plays that each player has had to make. Thats the whole point of the fielding %. I never once said Foster is a better fielder than Kramer, but he has done a fine job relative to Kramer.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:59 pm to
FWIW, you can't count the balls he has bounced to Chinea on attempted double plays since you can't assume the out... unless the runner advances.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:04 pm to
FWIW you can argue that Chinea should've made the scoop. Again, I never said he was perfect
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85025 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:07 pm to
I argue that all the time.

Another FWIW for you... Sciambra has greatly improved from his sophomore/junior seasons to this year. .260 to .380 hitter. And look at Foster, too. Sub .200 to .350. It's not just freshman who can get better. Hell, sometimes they get "worse".
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1291 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:15 pm to
Kramer does have time to improve and I hope he does. I just don't think he has a spot in this years lineup at all. I also don't think he has the same potential as Papeirski. 2B will be his position to lose next year
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14504 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:47 pm to
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The real question is why you don't bunt one of your worst hitters with runners on 1st and second with no outs. That's the real fricking question.


If you were paying attention to the way the corners were crashing on the bunt attempt, I think pulling the bat back and swinging is the right call. The corners were in front of the pitcher by the time the ball reached the plate and second and short busted to cover 1st and 3rd. All Robinson had to do was get the ball on the ground anywhere and it would have been a base hit.
Posted by gumbodawg
Baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
396 posts
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:58 pm to
Then why trash the kid? He lost his spot because Foster is mashing. Comes in due to injury and goes 1-3 with a triple, BB, and scores 3 runs? Not incredible, but solid. Are you mad because he struck out with an opportunity to win the game? That can be said for an awful lot of our players this year, including Foster on the previous at bat. I just don't get the hate for this kid. Direct your criticism where it belongs -the head man.

And,
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