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Why didn't MT make that pass to CJ late in the game?

Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:18 am
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:18 am
Everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about. Thornton came up with a steal and drove the court and had CJ way out in front of him. Instead of passing it off for an easy bucket, he kept it and went up for a layup that was blocked out of bounds.


Did we end up scoring on that possession? Was that when Terry Martin got the goaltend call?
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 12:54 am
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:22 am to
CJ wasn't that far ahead of him. Better to finish up the high percentage layup than make the scoring attempt more complex than it needs to be.

That was just a very good play by the Tenn player of blocking the shot without getting the foul called.
Posted by latiger09
Member since Jun 2005
7226 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:32 am to
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CJ wasn't that far ahead of him.


yes he was. he also wouldnt have had his shot blocked because he wouldve dunked it. that was stupidly selfish on thornton's part, one of the few bad plays he made all game
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26272 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:34 am to
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Better to finish up the high percentage layup than make the scoring attempt more complex than it needs to be.


This is the correct answer. It drives me crazy when guys have an easy layup and try to pass or do something tricky and screw up the gimme 2pts. That said, it doesn't always work, as was in the case here.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:48 am to
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Everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about.


It was the perfect SportsCenter top 10 plays moment. I was hoping he'd lob it up and let CJ slam it home. Ah well.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:50 am to
don't know why he didn't pass it. Johnson had an easy dunk. But, we scored on that possession b/c i made a point to notice. 2 foul shots, don't remember who hit them.
Posted by Gugich22
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:54 am to
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CJ wasn't that far ahead of him. Better to finish up the high percentage layup than make the scoring attempt more complex than it needs to be.



ehh...i'll respectfully disagree
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:54 am to
the correct answer was he made a mistake not passing it up. no question about it. if he had it to all over again im sure he would have. but frick it we won.
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 12:56 am to
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the correct answer was he made a mistake not passing it up. no question about it. if he had it to all over again im sure he would have. but frick it we won.




i agree...i still can't believe we won that game
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:00 am to
under brady we would not have. i honestly believe that.

que tiger20.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:34 am to
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under brady we would not have. i honestly believe that.


May I respectfully refer you to the 2007 SEC tournament game against Bruce Pearl and teh Tennesse Vols. That was against a better Tennesse club which featured SEC Player of the Year Chris Lofton and Jujuan Smith.

Head to head

Brady 2
Pearl 1

Why not just post something positve about tonight's win and not make a disparaging comment about a coach who contributed greatly to the LSU basketball tradition of greatness.
Posted by Journeyman21
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2005
21 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:35 am to
I was confused as well. Marcus has never been a "get mine" type of player. On watching the replay, I'm not sure he saw CJ. After crossing midcourt he looks over his left shoulder to gauge his separation from the guy he pilfered. Johnson was on the opposite side of the court and likely out of the periphery of Thornton's vision.

If he did see him, then it was a rare case of poor judgement from our most consistent performer.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:37 am to
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May I respectfully refer you to the 2007 SEC tournament game against Bruce Pearl and teh Tennesse Vols. That was against a better Tennesse club which featured SEC Player of the Year Chris Lofton and Jujuan Smith.


that game had what to do with this game? you dont think TJ wouldve won that game to? and probably by 10 more points.

quote:

Why not just post something positve about tonight's win and not make a disparaging comment about a coach who contributed greatly to the LSU basketball tradition of greatness.


i forgot thats the rule you live by. im sooo sorry.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:42 am to
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that game had what to do with this game? you dont think TJ wouldve won that game to? and probably by 10 more points


TJ didn't coach the 2007 game and Brady didn't coach tonight's game so you have no idea whether LSU would have won tonite under Brady. Maybe they don't squander a 15 point lead in 7 minutes under Brady. Who knows? Let's just enjoy those two wins against the highly overrated Bruce Pearl.

quote:

i forgot thats the rule you live by. im sooo sorry.


Apology accepted.
Posted by latiger09
Member since Jun 2005
7226 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:47 am to
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Maybe they don't squander a 15 point lead in 7 minutes under Brady.


villanova and their 18 point deficit last year with 6 minutes left strongly disagree.

i hear they are having a riveting discussion about brady's 5-4 record in the sun belt conference on the arkansas state board. run along now.
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 1:50 am
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:49 am to
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Maybe they don't squander a 15 point lead in 7 minutes under Brady. Who knows?
yeah you're right i dont know considering it didnt happen but i can take a hell of an educated guess. again thanks for the laugh.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:52 am to
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villanova and their 18 point deficit last year with 6 minutes left strongly disagree.


dont forget the 10-12(ive already forgetten the actual number) lead against ohio state with like 3 minutes to go. i guess the difference is trent helped his team to victory. but until he sits on the bench biting his nails in the ncaa tourney while uab runs them up the court he'll never be the coach john was.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:53 am to
Thornton should have passed it...no ifs ands or buts. The defender was at an angle where he could not have been able to defend a 6'11", long armed freak of nature. Larry Conley agrees.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:53 am to
quote:

villanova and their 18 point deficit last year with 6 minutes left strongly disagree.


It happens to all coaches and all teams at times.
Roy Williams and Nrth Carolina lost an NCAA tourney game a couple of years ago when they lost about a 20 point lead and made 1 of their last 23 shots.

Bruce Pearl adn Tennessee lost an 18 point lead to Ohio State.

Billy Donovan and florida lost a lead to South Carolina last week.

It will also happen to Trent Johnson one day.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96013 posts
Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:55 am to
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It will also happen to Trent Johnson one day.


you know what. 100% agree. but the fact that you're still backing a coach that has proven to be so awful is pretty funny. what do you think brady's record is with this group? i dont know why i really even asked that honestly.
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