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Why couldn't we have followed USCw's path
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:49 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:49 am
Coach O went 6-2 there as interim, brought life to program. But wasn't hired because USC had a competent AD.
Coach O goes 6-2 as interim here, brought life to program. But our AD is so incompetent, that he feels the need to give him a chance instead of hiring an up and comer/proven coach. Now our program is in a very fast downward spiral because of it.
Thanks Joe Alleva.
Coach O goes 6-2 as interim here, brought life to program. But our AD is so incompetent, that he feels the need to give him a chance instead of hiring an up and comer/proven coach. Now our program is in a very fast downward spiral because of it.
Thanks Joe Alleva.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to GEAUX5
Are you saying Clay Helton was a homerun hire?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:51 am to tigerfan84
I’d give my left nut to have Clay Helton over O right now.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:57 am to GEAUX5
Helton was an interim coach too. And don't forget that he was doing terribly until Darnold started playing. And they've been pretty underwhelming to start the year.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:57 am to tigerfan84
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Are you saying Clay Helton was a homerun hire?
looks like he's saying they knew not to take a chance on O because they had a competent AD
Sark was a much better hire at the time than keeping O
Helton thus far has been a decent hire while he may not be a homerun
ETA: but how often does a true "homerun hire" happen without hindsight? Meyer, Saban, who else AT THE TIME OF THE HIRE has been considered a TRUE homerun hire?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:00 am to GEAUX5
I'm not 100% positive but wasn't Sarkisian the hire from the "competent" AD?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:02 am to GEAUX5
It's not popular on the board right now but Helton is an example for having patience. He was an interim, given the gig. He started last by being blown out 52-6 and was 1-3 at the end of September. USC fans thought he was in over his head and wasting all of the talent on the roster.
Again, I know that right now no one wants to hear anything other than fire everybody but something to think about.
Again, I know that right now no one wants to hear anything other than fire everybody but something to think about.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:03 am to Ash Williams
Pat Hayden saw what Orgeron really was, a defensive line coach, a rah-rah cheerleader who had destroyed Ole Miss football.
It's been published numerous times that we a have a simpleton for an AD...we was duped.
It's been published numerous times that we a have a simpleton for an AD...we was duped.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:04 am to tigerfan84
I'm saying that atleast USC had a coaching search and didn't settle.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:26 am to GEAUX5
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But wasn't hired because USC had a competent AD.
Wasn't that competent AD fired?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:29 am to GEAUX5
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Why couldn't we have followed USCw's path
This might be the worst argument ever made. USC is a terrible example for your point.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:31 am to GEAUX5
Don't just bring up stuff to fit your narrative. As bad as O sand JA ,USC is not what we are doing to emulate. That's a dumpster program that has seen it's best years pass by.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:36 am to tigerfan84
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Are you saying Clay Helton was a homerun hire?
They didn't hire Clay Helton over O. They hired Sarkisian. They just didn't know that he was a falling down drunk.
Now would a little more due diligence have revealed that? Maybe so. Maybe they knew and figured it was manageable.
But one thing is clear: whether they knew Sark was a lush or not, they felt better taking a chance on him than they did on an interim who went 6-2. Think about that and ask yourself why.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:53 am to Willietd
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I'm not 100% positive but wasn't Sarkisian the hire from the "competent" AD?
sark and helton were both Haden hires, and Haden was fricking garbage.
I believe Garrett (in one of his last moves as usc AD) hired kiffen. Since Garrett also hired Carroll, i'd consider him somewhat competent.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:57 am to GEAUX5
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But wasn't hired because USC had a competent AD.
Not sure I would call Pat Hayden "competent" buthe would be better than Alleva
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:59 am to GEAUX5
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Why couldn't O have followed USCw's path
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