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re: Why are Les and Cameron getting called out
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:29 am to chilge1
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:29 am to chilge1
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Present company prefers to pretend such criticism doesn't exist despite it being mentioned in this very thread.
And that's fine. That's all you.
I disagree. Even if the offense has been adjusted to suit the QBs, look at the product on the field. Game after game after game.
This is not to be taken as me dumping on Jennings, I know he puts in the time and tries hard.
It ultimately comes down to the coaches.
There's your answer.
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:30 am to la_birdman
quote:Yep.
It ultimately comes down to the coaches.
There's your answer
I mean who the frick does he think should be called out for offensive failure? The tooth fairy?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:31 am to ShortyRob
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We ran off two BETTER QBs that WE frickING RECRUITED in order to keep bad QBs to run a special offense(this would be VERY bad coaching)
Cam didn't recruit them. This shite happens all the time when programs change coordinators.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:36 am to ShortyRob
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Running around saying "they made adjustments that didn't work" is hardly a reason to NOT call out coaches. That's silly
Pretty sure that putting in the backup is a pretty tried and true attempt to adjust.
When that failed, Cam put the passing game in a shell and our Defense and OL should have won us 4 in a row.
Then the OL got banged up against ARK and we had to try something else. .. which worked against aTm and ND.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:37 am to chilge1
quote:Of course it does.
Cam didn't recruit them. This shite happens all the time when programs change coordinators.
Alas, you don't run off decent guys if what you have in hand is a shite show. You play the hand you have and hope to solve it down the line. Only a moron thinks to himself, "look, I've got AJ and he's garbage but, I'll run off those other guys cause I want to run a particular offense that AJ is GOING TO SUCK RUNNING!!!!!"
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:41 am to la_birdman
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It ultimately comes down to the coaches.
And if yall want to put that on Les, then go for it. Recruiting has been a disaster.
Can't fault Cam for doing everything he could to accommodate an inexperienced QB who he didn't recruit.
TBH, and I know you'll disagree, I think Cam puts some serious work in with Jennings while he doesn't have to worry about 20hr/week restrictions and game preparations and he comes out and surprises us all next year.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:41 am to ShortyRob
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I mean who the frick does he think should be called out for offensive failure? The tooth fairy?
Pumpers will blame anything but coaching on offense.
Youth
Execution
Injuries
No other teams have these issues
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:43 am to ShortyRob
Jury is out in Rettig since he sat out, but clearly Rivers wasn't the guy.
And thats on Crowton and Kragrawa for recruiting/development. And also on Miles.
And thats on Crowton and Kragrawa for recruiting/development. And also on Miles.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:45 am to Topwater Trout
Our issues on offense stem from recruiting. I don't see how anyone can blame Cam for the current crop if QBs with LSU schollies. JMO
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:45 am to chilge1
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And if yall want to put that on Les, then go for it. Recruiting has been a disaster.
Can't fault Cam for doing everything he could to accommodate an inexperienced QB who he didn't recruit.
TBH, and I know you'll disagree, I think Cam puts some serious work in with Jennings while he doesn't have to worry about 20hr/week restrictions and game preparations and he comes out and surprises us all next year.
All this is for a different thread.
Just so you know, I like Les, I really do.
With that being said, I stand by what I said with "it" coming down to the coaches.
I know Cam has put in time with Jennings and vice versa. Guess you missed that in my last post.
When the production of the field is less than average, and to stick with that production game after game, it comes down to the coaches.
I'm not trying to dump on anyone but I am trying to be realistic.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 12:49 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:48 am to la_birdman
The unstated and overwhelming theme of the OP is this.
What else could Cam possibly have done to develop his QBs while also developing strategies for winning games?
Didn't everyone expect this going in?
What else could Cam possibly have done to develop his QBs while also developing strategies for winning games?
quote:
When the production of the field is less than average, and to stick with that production for game after game, it comes down to the coaches.
Didn't everyone expect this going in?
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 12:50 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:49 am to chilge1
You asked why they are being called out. You have gotten your answer.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 am to chilge1
You believe CC put AJ in the best position to succeed this year? You don't think he could have done anything to make him a better QB?
He didn't recruit Mett but got tons of credit for his development so why can't he be called out for the lack if development of AJ or BH this year?
He didn't recruit Mett but got tons of credit for his development so why can't he be called out for the lack if development of AJ or BH this year?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:12 am to chilge1
BTW our down year is 8-5
Gary Patterson and TCU went 4-8 last year and people think they were robbed from being in the playoff this year
Can you imagine this place if we went 4-8 this year?
Gary Patterson and TCU went 4-8 last year and people think they were robbed from being in the playoff this year
Can you imagine this place if we went 4-8 this year?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:48 am to supatigah
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BTW our down year is 8-5
Gary Patterson and TCU went 4-8 last year and people think they were robbed from being in the playoff this year
Can you imagine this place if we went 4-8 this year
TCU has nowhere NEAR the recruiting power LSU has.
In the last 4 years, TCU has landed 8, four star recruits and zero 5 stars.
LSU landed 57 such players over the same period of time.
Someone remember this the next time we hear the excuse that LSU is having a rough time due to so many players headed to the NFL.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:39 am to Topwater Trout
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He didn't recruit Mett but got tons of credit for his development so why can't he be called out for the lack if development of AJ or BH this year?
Before Cameron got here, Mett had one year at Georgia, one year starting at JUCO, one year sitting at LSU, and one year starting at LSU. Jennnigs is starting from scratch. . Pretty huge difference.
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