re: Who here wanted Gary Patterson?

I still think he's a good coach.
I'll go on record- in 2005, I wanted Fisher promoted.
I was happy as hell when I thought we'd get Petrino.
I didn't know shite about Miles and it scared me.
Before the "HAVE A GREAT DAY" speech, I said promote Pelini.
When Malveto was failing, I said to hire Chavis. I still stand by that move until crappy defense becomes the norm.

Gary Patterson is at a turd of a program compared to LSU. They didn't have a sellout for 24 years before he got there and the largest crowd ever in TCU history is just over 50,000 people. He's also had to deal with several conference changes and that's not easy (unless you have a Johnny Football). I don't think people grow up wanting to play for TCU.

Still, the guy has had 11 winning seasons out of 12 and won 7 bowl games (including the Rose against Wisconsin and finishing undefeated). They'll probably have a losing season this year, but they still hung in there with us and were within 3 points late in the 4th.

Patterson got TCU as many wins in their first year in the Big 12 as Les got in his last year with Oklahoma State...and Les didn't have a winning record in his first year in that conference (he did in his 2nd though). I wouldn't say anyone is superior to anyone, but Patterson ain't working with much and has done very well over there. Just say it out loud - Texas Christian University - does it sound like a place that you would want to go play football at?

Back in 2010, I wanted either Patterson, Jim Harbaugh, or Kevin Sumlin, and I'd still take any of the 3 over Miles.

I know Patterson is struggling in the Big XII, and I didn't like some of his comments before the opener (I'm willing to look beyond that stuff because I think most of us can admit to getting caught up in life and saying things we regret. Heck, in most cases, I prefer a bit of a loose cannon over someone that is overly guarded and calculated with everything they say. Although, from a strategical standpoint, I do like Miles' secrecy.), but the man has done some incredible things at TCU, and he's still got a better overall record than Miles as a college coach.

I'm not trying to be negative here, but I'm just not a Miles guy. For all intents and purposes, he lost me in 2009. However, I do see the obvious, ostensible absurdity in getting rid of a coach with a near 80% winning percentage and a BCS Championship. For me, it's just more nuanced than pure numbers.

This situation reminds me of Nolan Richardson at Arkansas. I always admired him, and really liked his approach to basketball, especially the pressure defense he ran. I remember actually being angry when Arkansas fired him, and thinking that the Hogs were ungrateful to a great coach who brought them a national championship. There were other controversial issues surrounding Nolan's firing, but from a results angle, maybe I'm being hypocritical a decade later, but when I consider all the variables, I'd take Patterson.

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I still think he's a good coach.
I'll go on record- in 2005, I wanted Fisher promoted.
I was happy as hell when I thought we'd get Petrino.
I didn't know shite about Miles and it scared me.
Before the "HAVE A GREAT DAY" speech, I said promote Pelini.
When Malveto was failing, I said to hire Chavis. I still stand by that move until crappy defense becomes the norm.

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good thing you dont make decisions. Plus pelini already took the nebraska job.

A few years ago people laugh when I said I wanted Pinkel.

Today....

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Petrino wouldve kicked arse here.

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the Rant would bitch constantly about his attitude towards defense and recruiting

Petrino was a horrible recruiter. And did not give one shite about defense.

Since we are dreaming, John Gruden would be the ultimate. Would love to see him bring his attitude and coaching ability. Would be awesome.

If we truly are dreaming, I'd pick Urban Meyer.

But yeah, Petersen and Patterson would be good. So would Kirby Smart.

I say if Les says he is going to Mich. to get a bigger raise, let him.