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re: Which poster has been the most critical of Miles over the last 7 or 8 years?

Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:26 pm to
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LSUsmartass



What a dildo.


I sure as hell hope we make this run in November because if the offense struggles against the defenses we are about to face (could NEVER happen without a complete retard at HC, right?? ) the reverse "I told you so's" from the people that don't hate Miles' guts like you nerds do is going to make this board even more insufferable than it already is.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:26 pm to
Bruce Arians is 10th alltime in the nfl in win pct is he the 10th best coach in nfl history? Harbaugh is 5th bellicheck is like 15th or something. Is harbaugh better than bellicheck is Arians?
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:30 pm to
Yeh and Miles was under scrutiny for stuff that happened while he was there. Rampant drug use by players, bonus pay, academic issues...but he is a great guy lol
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:38 pm to
That is the biggest misconception of miles there is. The great man persona is false he's a politician that image was manufactured. Look at the way he treated certain players lee, honey badger, Russell sheppard just to name a few then look at how he treated Jordan Jefferson danny McCray and other pets he had. He also loved to shite talk 17 and 18 year old kids who decided to go to other schools what a classy guy. Miles maintained some level of success for a few years post Saban but if you take off the purple and gold glasses he underachieved almost every year. Look at our pre season rankings compared to where we finished in almost every year. Look at his record vs the spread. Look at how many pros all pros and pro bowl guys he had compared to other teams and compare his success to those teams. He was a B+ CEO he was a D level game day coach.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11427 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:58 pm to
Goddamn y'all are some sick frickers.

The man had a run at LSU NEVER seen before. Never. Like there is no way around it, never.

There is no school in this country that wins 8-10 games a year with the incompetence you accuse Miles of.

You small minded football fans should just let it go. The piling on is ridiculous. You've tried to tear the man down the whole time that he won the 8- 10 games a year. If it wasn't his headset against Arizona State, or his nod to his family (excited to be coaching LSU) in the run out of the Tennessee game in the same year, it was the way he clapped, or the interviews where you wanted fricking coach speak and he didn't give it to you.

He gave LSU the longest streak of being in the elite of college football that we have EVER had. He didn't run to another school (Dietzel) , he didn't run off to a rival school (Arnsparger), he didn't run away to the NFL (Saban), he was classy until the end, and never blamed you fricking idiots in the fan base.

That last statement is key. He has faced 1000 times more scrutiny than Saban, McClendon, or Dietzel put together, but he never shite on the fan base like many coaches do.

If you are bragging about hating Miles since 2005 on this board, you are part of the problem...and please STFU
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:03 pm to
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Bruce Arians is 10th alltime in the nfl in win pct is he the 10th best coach in nfl history


At no time did i mention the word best. Best is subjective. The best tenure isnt. He has the best win % in lsu history while coaching in the most dominant era of sec football ever.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:04 pm to
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Yeh and Miles was under scrutiny for stuff that happened while he was there.


We had the 2nd highest grad rate behind Vandy.
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Rampant drug use by players, bonus pay, academic issues...but he is a great guy lol


Lol.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:07 pm to
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Miles maintained some level of success for a few years post Saban but if you take off the purple and gold glasses he underachieved almost every year


The ignorance in this statement is astounding.

The last 5 years that everyone says were shite have a better win loss record than Saban's tenure at lsu.
The last 4 years have more top 16 finishes than Saban's tenure at lsu.
If miles underachieved then every single lsu coach ever has underachieved.
Miles inherited a program with 1 top 5 finish in over 2 decades. Before miles was hired we had 8 top 15 finishes in 3 decades.
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Look at how many pros all pros and pro bowl guys he had compared to other teams and compare his success to those teams.


Are you kidding? There are multiple programs with tons of nfl players and they werent as successful as Miles.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 10:12 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66405 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:22 pm to
You, me, Max
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:27 pm to
I've been a Les Miles hater (as a coach but not as a human being) since I watched him lose to Tennessee his first season.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:31 pm to
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I've been a Les Miles hater (as a coach but not as a human being) since I watched him lose to Tennessee his first season.


So you were upset for losing while the region had just went through two hurricanes?
We didnt lose again until the seccg and you hated him?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:38 pm to
This thread was about people who were critical of Miles Ricky... But as usual evry post in this thread by you is like a broken record. You say the same things over and over. He is gone. Your facts are there. But again he is gone. I have not seen you around much since coach O has taken over and made this team look as talented as it is. Why no comments Ricky.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 10:56 pm to
Kill yourself you negatiger
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:06 pm to
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You say the last 4 years are a colossal failure



thats not what I meant. I meant losing to Bama for 5 straight games is a colossal failure in and of itself.
Posted by Tigerfan97
Kyoto, JPN
Member since Oct 2016
208 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:10 pm to
There are some sad bastards in the world.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47648 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:16 pm to
I'm just letting you know that using something like win pct is a blanket type way of judging success. You can't point to one thing and determine someone's worth. There are plenty of ways miles underachieved. Was he successful? Yes he was. Is he a good game day coach? No he isn't. That's being proved presently and if you compare him with others using titles he wasn't the most successful coach at lsu. He's gone and we are thriving since. Most everyone is happy he's gone and I'm enjoying LSU football for the first time in a long time. And I'm pretty sure that GPa comment was incorrect I remember us being one of the lowest in the league last season.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10877 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:17 pm to
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Its not always about records when judging success or failure. Sometimes it about maximizing your talent and living up to perceived potential....which I think CLM failed miserably at.
Continuely recruiting QB's that didn't fit his system was at the top of the list for me.

Square Peg Round Hole QB recruiting = &

Power Running I-Formation system that requires Pro-Style Passing QB's that are good at Play Action, Reading Defenses, Going through Progressions and Quick Information Processing skills.

Ole Les brings in Dual Threat Spread Option QB's with weak passing skills that "Run Fast" and then tries to force them into being I-form Passing QB's.

It doesn't work.

His Offense worked with Mettsiah and now it's working (Albeit Modified) with Etsiah..........
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47648 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:32 pm to
And the sec during miles tenure was not as good as it was when Saban got here. Yes bama wins titles which makes us look better but when Saban arrived the sec had Florida Tennessee and Georgia all national title contenders plus LSU and auburn were on the brink of making title runs bama was an 8-10 win team also. The west is better top to bottom now but from 99 to 04 the sec had much better top level teams.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47648 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:41 pm to
That's just untrue. We have the most pros in the nfl more than Meyer or Saban. More than jimbo fisher or even gene chizick for that matter. Yet all of these coaches have had as much but mostly more success than les miles at lsu.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:43 pm
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11427 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 11:56 pm to
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And the sec during miles tenure was not as good as it was when Saban got here. Yes bama wins titles which makes us look better but when Saban arrived the sec had Florida Tennessee and Georgia all national title contenders plus LSU and auburn were on the brink of making title runs bama was an 8-10 win team also. The west is better top to bottom now but from 99 to 04 the sec had much better top level teams.



C'mon man. Saban didn't coach in the SEC in '99

The west is, and have been at a higher level in Miles time... maybe more than ever before

National Titles; 8 from the SEC ...3 teams in that mix

fricking Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Arkansas have been in the top 5 late into the season in Miles era, and Texas A&M joined the conference with a few top 25 teams


Saban was not successful against Spurrier at the end of his UF run, and still lost a game to Zook

I was going to break it down by school, but that is not needed.

You can't defend that stance, so I will leave this alone.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 11:57 pm
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