When people say "LSU is always ranked high to start the year."...

Which poll are we talking about here?

They finished #14 in 2012 not #12 and started #3 not #5

Not sure those numbers are very strong ammunition for us. Looks like 6 of the last 10 years, including the last 4 in a row, we've finished lower than we started in preseason.

Also, this seems a little odd...

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LSU 2012 Preseason Rank: #5

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Didn't we start #1 in the Coaches poll and the AP poll that year before the AP re-voted after the suspension of Honey Badger and dropped us to #3 IIRC?

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They finished #23 in the final AP poll in 2014 not #27

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Huh? We finished unranked in the AP and Coaches' polls in 2014. We finished #23 in the Harris Poll, but that was before the bowl game loss. They didn't do another Harris Poll after the bowls.

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They finished 23rd in the college playoff rankings.

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That was before the bowls, though. After the bowls, we were out of the top 25 in both post-bowl major polls.

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Hey, what's our retro-recruiting ranking now, after yet another transfer?

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There's a lot of things about miles you can notch about, but transfers aren't one of them.

You realize we had to have multiple transfers to get down to 85? Its not like any starters transferred out.

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You realize we had to have multiple transfers to get down to 85?

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Oh, so LSU forced them to leave? Is that what you're saying?

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Its not like any starters transferred out.

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No, just former 5 star and other blue chip recruits, including 4 WR's. The pumpers think these guys left because they just weren't good enough to beat out our roster of super players. A simple look at the roster tells a different tale. After Dural and Dupree are gone, we have overrated players followed by jack shite.

But if they all fall flat at their new schools, I'll stand corrected.

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That's how this game works

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We Will be fine

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The mating call of the pumpers.

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You're just looking for something to bitch about.

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I don't have to look.

You keep giggling, but it's pretty simple math. You sign 25 players a year, but can only have 85 total. People have to go. And we didn't lose many from last year to graduation and juniors leaving early.

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I don't have to look

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Awaiting your results of those transfer success stories.

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You sign 25 players a year, but can only have 85 total.

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So your claim is still that we forced them to leave, to cut the roster down?

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Awaiting your results of those transfer success stories.

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I haven't seen an exodus of former blue chips like this until very recently. Let them actually have careers elsewhere and we'll see.

BTW, I could give a shite if any player has a great career in the NFL. I don't give a fraction of a frick about the NFL, and many players who were great in college and led their teams to success didn't have great pro careers, if they had pro careers at all.

I'll bet you $1000 that Johnson doesn't peter out and ride the pines at OSU, though.

And I haven't even gotten started on the convicts. That's another pattern of the Miles era.

Again, what's our retro-recruit ranking, especially now that we've lost a former 5 star? People always mention LSU's year after year recruit rankings, but it never accounts for the players who either leave or are rendered ineligible because of off the field issues.