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re: When Les breaks the LSU all-time win record AND wins another NC...
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:18 pm to matt314
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:18 pm to matt314
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The 2007 Stanford vs. USC football game was an NCAA college football game held on October 6, 2007, at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, California. In a remarkable upset, with USC favored by 40 points, the visiting Stanford Cardinal won 24–23. USC entered the game with a 35-game home game winning streak (its previous home game loss also happened to be to Stanford, in 2001) which included a 24-game home game winning streak in Pac-10 play. By contrast, Stanford had compiled a Pac-10 worst 1–11 season in 2006, which included a 42–0 loss to USC. To compound the situation, Stanford's starting quarterback T. C. Ostrander had suffered a seizure the previous week and backup quarterback Tavita Pritchard had never started a game and had thrown just three passes in official play.
Considering Stanford was 5-1 against USC from 2007-12, I'd say this was just a matter of USC being vastly overrated (shocking) and Jim Harbaugh being incredibly underrated.
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It was so bad that Rich Rod, a WVU alum, felt compelled to leave the program for Michigan.
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:27 pm to chilge1
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You want to speak in terms of W/L or in terms of building the program back up?
Both........He had a 10-2 season...and yes he brought in some real good players for Saban to work with. But Saban had three games in 2000 that put LSU back on the Map nationally and to another level... Miss St. Tenn. And beating Bama AT Tiger Stadium for the 1st time since 1969... Plus he took a team that was 2-9 the year before to a bowl game and an 8-4 record...........
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:34 pm to matt314
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but he's not a top ten coach by any opinion except the ones expressed by his fanboys on this and other LSU sites
Holy shite. Miles' tenure has been the most successful 10 year stretch in lsu history.
Miles has 7 pf lsu's 13 10 win seasons.
Lsu has finished in the top 15 7 times in Miles' 10 years.(and another year we finished 17th)
Lsu has finished in the top 10
5 times in Miles' 10 years.
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All of the "most" records he compiled from 2005-2011 have been getting whittled away as other coaches get more seasons and Les loses 3-4 a yea
Wow. 4 of the last 5 years lsu has finished in the top 15.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:40 pm to dukke v
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But what Saban did while here aside from being the football coach has a longer lasting impression... Those things have helped Miles bigtme.
Its far easier to buld a powerhouse program than to maintain one. Whats easy to do?
Have 3 great recruiting classes OR 10 great classes?
Whats easier?
Average 12 wins a year for 3 years or average 10 wins for a decade?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:42 pm to chilge1
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Considering Stanford was 5-1 against USC from 2007-12, I'd say this was just a matter of USC being vastly overrated (shocking) and Jim Harbaugh being incredibly underrated.
Maybe recruiting Andrew Luck had something to do with that. I'll go out on a limb and say he was significantly better than Tavita Pritchard. And what does the record from 08-12 have to do with the 07 game? Stanford went 4-8 that year. From 09-12 they went to the Orange, Fiesta, and Rose bowls. Maybe the Luck guy and all those pro TE's had something to do with those other wins over USC.
You make no point.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:42 pm to dukke v
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But what about 1/9/12????? That was way more disappointing than ANY Saban loss aNYWHERE.................
What? In what world is losing in the National Title game worse than losing to UAB and ULM?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 7:46 pm to navy
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But ... prior to Saban, LSU was not considered a bona-fide powerhouse nor a household name across the nation.
LSU was a powerhouse under Saban?
4 losses ( 2000 )
3 losses ( 2001)
5 losses ( 2002)
1 loss (2003)
3 losses (2004)
How the hell is that considered a powerhouse?
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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What? In what world is losing in the National Title game worse than losing to UAB and ULM?
The real world.
The prize is much bigger and the consequences more enduring. Who has lost one and come back to win another? Tressel? Stoops? Miles? It would seem that losing one leads more to future failure than success.
Since losing to UAB Nicky has won 4 NC's and 4 SEC titles. Since losing the MNC game Les has had a couple of nice seasons and lost to Nick three more times..
And all of those pumping Les say not to bring up Nick's success at Bama and you bring up ULM.
The folks on both of the extremes of this argument lost all reason long ago.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:02 pm to matt314
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Maybe the Luck guy and all those pro TE's had something to do with those other wins over USC.
Record against USC with Andrew Luck: 2-1
Record against USC without Andrew Luck 3-0
That game was a huge upset at the time. In hindsight, it was just the first of many.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:06 pm to dukke v
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Both........He had a 10-2 season...and yes he brought in some real good players for Saban to work with. But Saban had three games in 2000 that put LSU back on the Map nationally and to another level.
Not sure what your perspective is on the matter, but Saban took a good team with very good recruits and made a very good team. Miles took a very good team with elite recruits and made an elite team.
Dinardo took a team out of purgatory and made them competitive for the first time in decades.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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LSU was a powerhouse under Saban? 4 losses ( 2000 ) 3 losses ( 2001) 5 losses ( 2002) 1 loss (2003) 3 losses (2004) How the hell is that considered a powerhouse?
ONE NC was all he needed while he was here... It spoiled and ruined a great fanbase... Just like you..... BTW SU is no more of a so-called powerhouse since Miles has ben here...........
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:13 pm to matt314
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Who has lost one and come back to win another?
Without going any farther back than the BCS era, Bobby Bowden.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:17 pm to dukke v
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BTW SU is no more of a so-called powerhouse since Miles has ben here...
Miles kept Simmons from being a Jaguar?
ETA: In all seriousness, Les's 69 wins since 2008 are 7th most during that time. It's not Saban Alabama or Bowden Florida State, but it's among the best in today's game.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:27 pm to chilge1
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Record against USC with Andrew Luck: 2-1
Luck was 3-0 at Stanford against USC. He replaced Pritchard in 09 and put an all time record beatdown on the Trojans and followed up with two close wins in 10 and 11. He left for the 2012 draft.
When Stanford played USC in 07 the Trojans were on a 30+ game win streak so no way they lost to Stanford the previous 3 years. I don't know where you got that 3-0 but they've lost to USC twice since Luck left.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:31 pm to dukke v
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serious
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Subtle.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:38 pm to matt314
3-0 with him and 2-1 without... either way. Not interested in an Andrew Luck pissing contest.
Doesn't change the fact that in hindsight, Harbaugh's Cardinals beating Carroll's Trojans is par for the course.
Doesn't change the fact that in hindsight, Harbaugh's Cardinals beating Carroll's Trojans is par for the course.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:55 pm to chilge1
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Doesn't change the fact that in hindsight, Harbaugh's Cardinals beating Carroll's Trojans is par for the course.
BS. Only after he got his recruits as I stated before. He lost to SC in '08. Winning in '07 was a mini-miracle. Carroll hadn't lost to Stanford since his first season in 2001 and stomped them every year before '07. Stanford in '07 was the worst team in the PAC and one of the worst in the country.
You brought up events in the future to downplay the past so live with the mistake.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 8:57 pm to chilge1
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Without going any farther back than the BCS era, Bobby Bowden.
Right ... forgot the first one in '98 I think. He won the second and lost the third.
Then it fell apart for him.
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:34 pm to Choctaw
Holy frick I just died lololololololololollolol.
All time?
Lololololololololollolol
All time?
Lololololololololollolol
Posted on 5/23/15 at 12:03 am to matt314
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Since losing to UAB Nicky has won 4 NC's and 4 SEC titles.
You dumb shite, we are talking about LSU and not Alabama. Saban had one fricking great season at LSU and the rest were average to good.
8-4, 10-3, 8-5, 13-1, and 9-4 is NOT a power house program. It's a good program that had one great year.
Saban won the west twice with three SEC loses. How many times has three loses won the west since Saban left?
UAB is easily the most embarrassing LSU defeat in the last two decades. Anyone denying that fact is a troll or a retard.
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