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re: What's your biggest worry about the team going into the season?

Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:01 pm to
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This is a retarded argument. I'm not applying for OC of LSU's team


No, it's exactly the weakness of your and some other wantabees argument about the current LSU coaching staff. You want to question every fricking move they make as if u know better when in reality you don't know shite in comparison to them.

I said he had fricked the pooch some, but I know I don't have a clue as to how to do his job or what problems went on out side my view which caused our 100+ O ranking. You think u do and that's both arrogant and laughable.
Posted by LJBurton
Member since Feb 2005
1352 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:04 pm to
1 and 1A are QB and OLine. Not sure you can separate the two. A good QB can make an average OLine look really good (Drew Brees), while a bad QB can make the same line look pretty bad. Need significant improvement from both spots for LSU to have a successful season.

2 is Coaching. Last year's coaching was suspect at best. All the key players are back ... same OC, same DC, same HC. How much better of a staff will they be? Can Gonzales, Ensminger and a healthy Moffit make enough of a difference on this staff?
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:12 pm to
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No, it's exactly the weakness of your and some other wantabees argument about the current LSU coaching staff. You want to question every fricking move they make as if u know better when in reality you don't know shite in comparison to them.


Get the frick out of here. All I do is point to objective stats to back up my arguments. Then you and the rest of the assclowns come in and say "well, who do you coach for? You couldn't possible have a valid point because you haven't coached college football for 20 years."

It is the most asinine argument made on this board. It's like arguing that one can't criticize a President, a CEO, or a teacher unless they share the same profession. It's lunacy.

I guess I can't argue that a movie was bad after seeing it because I've never won an Oscar for Best Director.

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You think u do and that's both arrogant and laughable.


What's laughable is that you can't counter any argument made unless its with an unreasonable, ad hominem attack.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:13 pm to
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so the diff between a #9 off and and #112 off is a 5th yr qb compared to a basically 1st yr qb.


Wow......Who would have guessed?


Except that don't show a tendency to go back up.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155794 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:14 pm to
oline being able to run block
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:15 pm to
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Last year's coaching was suspect at best.


Sorry, you can't say that unless you've coached college football for 20 years and have at least one National Championship and three Conference Championships.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3368 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:17 pm to
I have lots of worries/concerns:

QB
OLine
DLine
Young LB
Offensive Coordinator.

What I can't understand is- this guy was so good in 2007. We spread the ball around and used lots of different weapons.

Last year, 3-and-out, option to the short side of the field, and we looked unorganized/confused a lot.

There's no doubt this team is as talented as anyone.
This post was edited on 8/10/10 at 12:18 pm
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2973 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Tigerdandy
namecalling shows your intelligence... i haven't seen one post from you where you disagree with another poster without calling names...
quote:

No, it's exactly the weakness of your and some other wantabees argument about the current LSU coaching staff.
being the 100 and something ranked offense is NEVER acceptable if you are the OC at LSU... the defense was ranked 50 something in '08 and it got the defensive staff run...
quote:

you don't know shite in comparison to them
i know a bad offense when i see it.. i know the option to the short side of the field is a bad play call... i know what the "clock it" signal means.. i know the clock stops after a change in possession.... i know running a middle screen to the running back with the clock running down and i have no more time outs is not a high percentage call... i know when i have a in-experienced QB, who has taken a lot of sacks, and it is late in the game and we are in FG range that i would not call a drop back pass....

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I don't have a clue as to how to do his job or what problems went on out side my view which caused our 100+ O ranking
but i know who is responsible for not letting it happen.....
Posted by BT
North La
Member since Aug 2008
9766 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:24 pm to
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Except that don't show a tendency to go back up.


Im gonna hold this thought til end of this year.
This offense has the opp and potential to blow that theory up.
Taking the wait and see approach.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48327 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 12:26 pm to
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Im gonna hold this thought til end of this year.
This offense has the opp and potential to blow that theory up.


Don't get me wrong. I'll be extactic if our offense blows up. And I agree that the potential is there. I'm simply pointing that, objectively, Crowton's offense tend to start our in fire and then plummet.


Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 1:48 pm to
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Crowton's offense tend to start our in fire and then plummet.


Well hopefully we have seen the plummet. Honestly I expect improvement but I do not expect anything like 07. To me it is more about line play than what JJ does give him time and a running game; he will do better.
This post was edited on 8/10/10 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26690 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 2:07 pm to
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1 and 1A are QB and OLine. Not sure you can separate the two. A good QB can make an average OLine look really good (Drew Brees), while a bad QB can make the same line look pretty bad. Need significant improvement from both spots for LSU to have a successful season.


The passing game and running game is good, The offense is legit. The only player I know that makes an offensive line look bad is Big Ben but he's won 2 Superbowls with it so why change.


But on the subject I posted this in the Murphy thread and I think this is my major concern:

quote:

They let Hester assert himself as lead rusher in 07 1000+ yard back. They let Scott assert himself as lead rusher in 08 1000+ yard rusher. I really believe OL was the problem no doubt because you couldn't get a good gauge on any RB which in turn had them just playing roulette with em. Nobody was able to lead the pack.

You forget we lost big Herm(senior), Big Helms(senior center), a healthy Ciron(played injured last year), and beast FB Quinn J(senior)

We replaced them with an injured Ciron, lightweights Josh Dw and T Bob, left Hitt in over more talented players, and installed a new blocking scheme.
This post was edited on 8/10/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted by NOLAtoChiTwn
Michigan
Member since Nov 2008
363 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

QB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stupid

and that "doctered" up, Doc photo is to.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 4:44 pm to
Give me the link to a statement made by someone with football coaching experience saying GC can't develop players or just admit u r running off at the mouth.

Your valid point is that GC is the biggist worry this team has for a yr that opens in a month? Not RBs of which we have no proven one. Not OL which struggled last yr? GC is your answer? Wow...

U can criticize anyone u have a want to. This board is full of those who can't do but want to criticize those who can do.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2973 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 4:56 pm to
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Give me the link to a statement made by someone with football coaching experience saying GC can't develop players or just admit u r running off at the mouth.
give me the link from a player that attribues his positive developemnet to GC or admit your are just running off at the mouth...
quote:

Your valid point is that GC is the biggist worry this team has for a yr that opens in a month? Not RBs of which we have no proven one. Not OL which struggled last yr? GC is your answer?
id say the coaches ability to develop the talent we have and put them in the position to succeed is my biggest concern... i think the talent is there at RB and OL, but will the be put in a position to have sucess...
quote:

U can criticize anyone u have a want to.
is that you Mrs. Miles???
quote:

This board is full of those who can't do but want to criticize those who can do.
pot meet kettle...

on a positive note, congrats on having at least one post where you did not resort to name calling....
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31159 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 4:58 pm to
Defensive line. We can't give up 5 or 6 yard runs on 1st down.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

but i know who is responsible


Sorry Timmy, but I can't take seriously a guy who claims to be a passionate, have the answers LSU fan but he doesn't even know our national ranking.

I have to wonder what other things u don't know or are confused about.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 5:06 pm to
Dam, r u A. Moss too?

How many names u use, Timmy?
Posted by 1dpt56
BR
Member since Jan 2007
13 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 5:08 pm to
youth and inexperience
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
4236 posts
Posted on 8/10/10 at 5:13 pm to
All right one thing is a fifth year QB can learn a play book faster than a first year QB. Wouldnt you be scared as hell to give a young QB a huge playbook.Im just sayin JJ is not ready to take on a playbook like that. I might not be a coach but thats how I see it. Its kinda like givin someone a gun. Would you rather an adult or a child with it.
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