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re: Whats our starting 5 next year w/ Malik Newman?

Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:06 am to
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:06 am to
Trying to put the jinx on our signing Newman?
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4936 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:28 am to
The 3 would be by far our best players so they will start

Blakeney 6'6 SG what a shooter
Newman 6'3 PG but can shoot lights out
Simmons 6'9 F The best player ever/high school
Victor 6'8 F
Epps 6'9 F

Backups

Quarterman 6'6 G/F
Hornsby 6'4 SG
Patterson 6'1 SG
Gray 6'1 PG
Malone 7'0 C
Robinson 7'1 C
Bridgewater 6'5 F

I went with Epps over TQ because we need another tall player to match up but he comes off the bench and plays as much or more than Epps/Victor. Epps is an ex high jumper and will get some of the blocks / rebounds we will lose from Mickey's output.

Very good athletic starting five with 4 McDonalds All Americans, the best 2 shooters that I have seen come out of high school in a long time and Ben Simmons who is High School player of the year and better than Kobe, Lebron, MJ, and Magic out of high school.

Actually the 7 listed back ups have talent and experience enough to replace some of the starters to where they can compete at high levels. You wonder that with Mickey and Martin we probably have the best team in the NCAA next year and would have been a lock for Elite 8 / Final 4 but they are not here. Even without them this team looks good on paper, and if the big 3 newcomers play like the past Kentucky freshmen, we will have a team that goes 24-6 and makes a long run into the tournament. What will make us a lose a few games that we are more talented is fatigue from the freshmen as they are not used to the grind of college, flights/hotel, overall traveling... But when they have their legs hardly any teams will be able to stay with their overall talent, shooting ability, etc...

Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:39 am to
Hornsby is starting. He carried this team in a few games.
Minutes would be distributed by who has the hot hand.
All viable options.

This team will Not self destruct like the last one.
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9245 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:50 am to
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Some people think it's preposterous that you would start 3 freshman and send returning starters to the bench.


Maybe the starting returners should declare for the draft as well. Start the freshman, they may not be here very long.
Posted by TopsInAmericaTim
Houston Area
Member since Oct 2011
1403 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:01 am to
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But I hope that Robinson can give us some quality minutes next year. We really need a true Center.


Center? Did anyone not see what 4 guards and a small forward did to Kentucky? (Notre Dame) ...!! No centers required any longer.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:08 am to
Hornsby will start. You need leadership on the floor with a completely new starting 5. Especially early in the season.
Posted by Northeast
Member since Sep 2014
67 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:31 am to
So many guards.

Killer that Mickey hauled arse. This team really could have been special
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22154 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:34 am to
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Hornsby will not be coming off the bench.



If Malik comes he will. Who is he going to start over? If 4 of your starting 5 are Victor, Simmons, Blakenly, and Newman, your 5th is Quarterman. You don't need another shooter in that rotation. You have 2 excellent shooters in Blakenly and Newman. Hornsby absolutely comes off the bench to provide an outside shooting threat when Blakenly or Newman sits.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 12:06 pm to
Quarterman came off the bench last year and was successful.
No reason to think that won't happen again.
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3495 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:10 pm to
newman blakeney hornsby simmons robinson

all robinson has to do is protect the rim get rebounds and stay out of the way on offense
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:15 pm to
I think the starting 5 next year is:

PG: Malik Newman
SG: Antonio Blakeney
SF: Tim Quarterman
PF: Benny Simmons
C: Craig Victor

At times I think we could go with a 4 guard lineup to give the forwards some rest, especially if we don't see a lot of improvement from Epps (who I think has to move to PF due to depth), Robinson, or Malone.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 2:25 pm to
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Why is it preposterous for us to start 3 freshman when high profile teams around the country do this often?




because they generally recycle starting lineups every year. we return a ton of guards so it's hard to say that the Fr will start or not.


If we land Newman it's going to be really tough to find minutes for everyone.

- TQ is almost a lock to start. He is our most important guy coming back.

- Hornsby is our top returning player as far as minutes.

- Then you still have Patterson and Gray.

The thing that sucks is Malik Newman, Blakeney, Gray, Patterson, and Hornsby are all 6'3" or shorter. Blakeny maybe pushing 6'4". Still not really tall enough to give us much versatility in most lineups.


i could see a crunch time lineup of

-TQ
-Blakeney
- Hornsby
-Simmons
-whatever big emerges

who starts really doesn't matter.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:20 pm to
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If Malik comes he will. Who is he going to start over? If 4 of your starting 5 are Victor, Simmons, Blakenly, and Newman, your 5th is Quarterman. You don't need another shooter in that rotation. You have 2 excellent shooters in Blakenly and Newman. Hornsby absolutely comes off the bench to provide an outside shooting threat when Blakenly or Newman sits.


Hornsby starts over Blakeney
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

who starts really doesn't matter
I agree with this statement. I think a good rotation could be their if Newman makes it in...

Starter (Rotation player)

Malik Newman (Jayln Patterson / Tim Quarterman)
Antonio Blakeney (Hornsby / Quarterman)
Tim Quarterman / Keith Hornsby
Ben Simmons (Aaron Epps / Brian Bridgewater / Craig Victor)
Elbert Robinson (Craig Victor / Brian Bridgewater)


In my opinion, Elbert Robinson is the key to a successful season next year. We seriously need a big inside presence. If EB is not able to be the big man we need him to be, then I think you see a lot Victor/Bridgewater/Epps in the PF 2 role.

If Malik doesn't make it on campus, I could see something like...

Tim Quarterman
Anontio Blakeney
Keith Hornsby
Ben Simmons
Elbert Robinson
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

It sucks sending returning starters to the bench but fact is


not really. We haven't done anything in basketball. Those freshman better start.
Posted by LSU 318 LSU
El Cerrito Place
Member since Jan 2011
4278 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Ben Simmons who is High School player of the year and better than Kobe, Lebron, MJ, and Magic out of high school.
Dude, Ben Simmons is pretty damn good, but really?
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Best guess. . Newman Blakeney Quarterman Simmons Victor

That's possible but I believe Hornsby will continue to start. He brings the Senior leadership desperately needed and no one out hustles him, not to mention he's nearly a 40% 3 point shooter. If Newman does come, I'd predict he will start alongside TQ and Hornsby and Blakeney will provide instant offense off the bench along with Patterson.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1295 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:19 pm to
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better than Lebron out of highschool


What
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
720 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:19 pm to
With all this being said about lineups and depth at the perimeter positions, I would hope Johnny goes back to full court pressing teams throughout the game. Had a lot of success with that last year. All these players could go hard exerting energy and Quarterman's length would be the key on the opposition in bounding the ball. Only concern would be the bigs being able to do it as well because we are thin. But if you do a four guard lineup then that's not a big concern with Simmons and Victor playing the 5 spot when pressing.

Tons of steals, fast breaks, alleys, SC highlights... Run and gun is the way to go next year, it's just the type of bigs we have outside of Victor may not be able to keep up, thus we would be playing 4 against 5, but our 4 would be damn good.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14489 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 5:27 pm to
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Victor Simmons Quarterman Blakeney or Hornsby Newman


I'm not sold that Victor being all that just yet. I think he probably left Arizona for reasons other than home sickness....maybe like he saw he wasn't going to play much.

But we are thin up front and Elbert has a lot of work to do and I didn't see as much development from Malone as I would have hoped. In fact I think he regressed a bit offensively. So here's hoping Victor IS all that. We need him to be.

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