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re: What percentage of the blame do you put on the players ability vs the coaching staff?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:27 am to texastigerr
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:27 am to texastigerr
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This defense needs an overhauled staff, a new culture, and a new voice coaching them.
The good thing is when Chavis and Aranda were brought in, the turnaround was almost instant.
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:28 am to LSUSkip
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House was stubborn and didn't let the defense play to what strengths they had.
And what are those strengths? House had a bad year. LSU does not have the talent we thought. I agree he was stubborn. I've seen DC's try and compensate playing DB's off the ball when inexperienced. Never works out.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:39 am to OJsLifeCoach
Coaching was really bad but the players were so slow . I mean Sam and burns were really bad at Safety and Penn and Speights were really bad at LB. There is talent on the defense just needs to be more added and the portal doesnt seem to be the answer for the most part.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:42 am to CatfishJohn
That’s it!! Combine the fact that we had safeties playing CB
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:55 am to OJsLifeCoach
100% Coaches/0% Players
Our coaches don't know how to coach defense. We have better talent than what we are witnessing. Our talent is down, but that is not the primary problem.
We couldn't stop Arkansas....Grambling moved the ball on us at will for a quarter and a half.
Our coaches don't know how to coach defense. We have better talent than what we are witnessing. Our talent is down, but that is not the primary problem.
We couldn't stop Arkansas....Grambling moved the ball on us at will for a quarter and a half.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:01 am to FLObserver
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Penn and Speights were really bad at LB
Penn had his moments. He was the hardest hitter on the team and one of the surest tacklers. But he was lost a lot too.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:06 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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And what are those strengths?
Harold Perkins rushing the passer, or at least being a spy. I haven't blamed House totally for much this season, but letting Milroe run everywhere on us has to fall on him.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:14 am to ApexTiger
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Its both players and coaching
The following question is not a stab at you ...
Who recruits the players??
...So at the end of the day.. its the coaches..
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:17 am to ApexTiger
Sage is playing out of position
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:22 am to OJsLifeCoach
In my view it is on the coaches. They recruit and coach the players. If the players are not good enough that’s on the coaching staff.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:27 am to mwade91383
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He didn’t forget how to coach defense
neither did pellini. who had no spring..opt outs and players quit on him.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:29 am to OJsLifeCoach
When the entire defense looks lost at almost all times, that is on coaching and it was happening at all levels.
When no adjustments are made as the season progresses, then it is on coaching.
This wasn’t one unit failing. It was all three.
That is on coaching.
When no adjustments are made as the season progresses, then it is on coaching.
This wasn’t one unit failing. It was all three.
That is on coaching.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:50 am to ApexTiger
I think that the lack of a d-line coach hampered the defense mightily. Yes, a GA can run the linemen through drills and get them aligned but it's coaching every play and every practice. When Coach Jenkins was at LSU in his first tenure, he coached every dang second...hand placement, reads, alignment, down and distance, read feet/heads, tendencies, etc. I'm assuming that this present group didn't get that level or intensity of instruction. I think Greg Brooks being unable to play was a huge hinderance for the secondary. He was responsible for formation reads, coverage adjustments, blitz calls and kills, and simply being the smartest guy back there for the young kids. Finally, Buddy Nix would always stress that great defenses tackle well...LSU didn't tackle well this year...for whatever reason.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:00 pm to Gus007
“If Kelly's name was Orgeron, without such a contract, he would have already been fired.
Slick talking Carpertbagger.”
This is just moronic. He is 20-6 after taking over a program that had less than half a college roster. In two years, he has won the West and produced a Heisman trophy winner. You must just be a miserable POS.
Slick talking Carpertbagger.”
This is just moronic. He is 20-6 after taking over a program that had less than half a college roster. In two years, he has won the West and produced a Heisman trophy winner. You must just be a miserable POS.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:01 pm to dimet
Harold Perkins rushing the passer, or at least being a spy.
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We tried rushing Perkins so many times off the edge, and it didn't work. Maybe BK was right with saying he wasn't going to be used the same way we did last year...because he knew it was unsustainable.
I'm 50/50 on using your most dynamic defender as a spy (not a coach, so I could be wrong). Yes, in Alabama i too wish he would have been used as a spy. But I don't like him not being in the action because he has to mirror a QB. Doesn't seem too effective on downs where the guy throws it and doesn't run
I didn't like our schemes...but it was also clear that we were deficient in the talent department.
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We tried rushing Perkins so many times off the edge, and it didn't work. Maybe BK was right with saying he wasn't going to be used the same way we did last year...because he knew it was unsustainable.
I'm 50/50 on using your most dynamic defender as a spy (not a coach, so I could be wrong). Yes, in Alabama i too wish he would have been used as a spy. But I don't like him not being in the action because he has to mirror a QB. Doesn't seem too effective on downs where the guy throws it and doesn't run
I didn't like our schemes...but it was also clear that we were deficient in the talent department.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:07 pm to OJsLifeCoach
Nobody here knows.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:24 pm to shinerfan
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Penn had his moments. He was the hardest hitter on the team and one of the surest tacklers.
Penn and Speights should never be on the field together. That took the team speed to like peewee football levels.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:25 pm to texastigerr
75/25 c/p
Stagnant up front with fundamentals not taught and no culture or attitude. Jury out for strength and agility. Mason Smith still has much to prove. Weeks reads the offense well that puts him in position to make plays. MW probably declaring. VERY THIN at the front 7. Much to get done there and the coaching isn’t there to create a much higher standard.
Tackling in space is an absolute joke.
The front 7 has to improve to see the secondary see improvment. Without this, the secondary has no shot.
We need a new culture NOW because we are the laughing stock of the nation.
Stagnant up front with fundamentals not taught and no culture or attitude. Jury out for strength and agility. Mason Smith still has much to prove. Weeks reads the offense well that puts him in position to make plays. MW probably declaring. VERY THIN at the front 7. Much to get done there and the coaching isn’t there to create a much higher standard.
Tackling in space is an absolute joke.
The front 7 has to improve to see the secondary see improvment. Without this, the secondary has no shot.
We need a new culture NOW because we are the laughing stock of the nation.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:29 pm to OJsLifeCoach
Neither are factually true. We didn’t have a full staff. And we missed on secondary players from the portal. Several of them.
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