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re: What is the true "rank" of LSU's offense?
Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:22 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:22 pm to CptBengal
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So you admit Miles is an idiot calling the plays...glad to see we have come to an agreement.
Guys like you just crack me the hell right up. You wanna have a reasonable and lucid conversation about CLM's good and bad...fine. But you guys always go here and show how little you truly know about the game.
For the 1,000,000th time, LES MILES DOES NOT CALL THE PLAYS!
I know this for a fact due to inside information but you don't even have to have that to know he doesn't call the plays. HE DOESN"T CARRY A PLAYSHEET!
No one who calls plays at even the high school level does it without a playsheet. Come on man....even my wife knows that much.
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Yes, he costs the team POINTS, and sometimes those points are enough to cost us a game.
Every game huh, I'd LOVE to see your breakdown of that. I'm sure its just as lucid and unbiased and logical as all your other claims.
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What gameday coaching talent does he bring to the table? Honestly....
He is a leader of men! Football teams take on the demeanor of their coach. Miles leads with a calm confidence that rubs off on his players. They don't panic when they are down because he doesn't panic. They fight harder than the other guys and play harder for "victory" than the other guys. His job on the sideline is to keep the team focused on the prize. When they mess up, his job is to remind them it is TEAM and VICTORY first, not their own personal goals.
Brother, make no mistake about it, once that game kicks off, its not about schemes, and play calls and game management and clock managment.
95% of all games are won by who plays harder and better and with more purpose and will. Who tackles, who blocks,who kicks, who catches and who throws the best. Thats who wins the games. Every coach says that over and over again and its the silly fan that ignores that.
The losing coach always says what? "We didn't execute today". The winning coach always says what? "Our guys really played their hearts out today, we played hard and executed really well".
Many of you have played the game, at least to the HS level. Yet you seem to have somehow forgotten the biggest lesson from your own playing days. Football at it's core...is all about exerting your will upon the other guy. It's all about who ignores the pain and keeps on making the blocks and the tackles! Its a game for the TOUGH! Its a game for the MEAN!
This is what CLM brings to the table, his ability to mold a team into one that possesses the qualities that ALL winning teams need. Bear Bryant didn't beat you with scheme, Vince Lombardi didn't beat you with scheme, Nick Saban don't beat you with scheme. They beat you by training their guys to be tougher and meaner than your guys. And thats how you win 80% of your games boys...no matter what goddam plays your coordinator calls or how bad you are at clock managment. That is his SECRET!
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Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:42 pm to lsuexpert57
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Nick Saban don't beat you with scheme. They beat you by training their guys to be tougher and meaner than your guys.
Not true!!!! Sabin's team are disciplined. No unnecessary penalties destroying drives. He doesn't lose players due to bar fights. He doesn't lose players habitually due to failed drug tests. He has an offense that throws to the tight end more than 1 or 2 times a year. He actually knows what a 4 WR set looks like. He's ahead by 20 points and still blitzing instead of letting the other team come back by playing prevent defense.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:01 pm to TigerBender
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No unnecessary penalties destroying drives.
especially holding or offensive pass interference on pick plays...
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He doesn't lose players due to bar fights. He doesn't lose players habitually due to failed drug tests.
they had a good year or two, but he's lost his share of players due to discipline issues since he's been at Bama
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blitzing instead of letting the other team come back by playing prevent defense.
did you miss Georgia's last drive in the SECCG?
Saban is the best in the business, thanks largely to his attention to detail, but the gap isn't that wide. Bama had their share of breaks the past two years and gets another big one next year with their schedule.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:26 pm to ForeLSU
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Saban is the best in the business, thanks largely to his attention to detail, but the gap isn't that wide. Bama had their share of breaks the past two years and gets another big one next year with their schedule.
It's hard to argue that Saban isn't the best, but as you point out, the gap isn't as wide as the casual fan thinks.
How much better of a coach do you think Saban is than say...Jim Harbaugh? Judging from their comparative pro records you could make the arguement that when Harbaugh was still at Stanford he was the BEST in CFB. Put Harbaugh at Bama and Saban at Stanford and who improves on who's results? Pete Carrol has done well in the pro's after leaving USC, you think Saban was much better than him when Carroll was in CFB? Think Saban's vaunted "process" wins 3 of 4 NC's at Mich. State?
Saban right now is the perfect marriage of a great coach at a plum job. The sum of the two is greater than the two individually. It's not too often in the history of CFB that that sort of marriage has happened.
Throw in a little good football fortune and its a bonafide steam roller.
The casual fan thinks Saban has some special scheme that other coaches don't know about or can't teach. They seem to think he knows some special technique he teaches to his DB's. They just don't understand the game. There are at least 25 guys in the NFL that know more about teaching DB's than Saban does. There are no secrets in the game anymore. They all steal from each other. If they see a drill or a play or a formation or a blitz that they think is better than theirs...they just adopt it.
Saban is a driven, special and talented coach, but he and his legend are a tad overrated because he ended up at what is one of the top 5 places to coach in CFB. At least that's how I see it.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:31 pm to ForeLSU
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Saban is the best in the business, thanks largely to his attention to detail, but the gap isn't that wide.
Don't know what you consider wide. But winning 3 BCSNC's in the last 4 years looks wide to me.
1/9/12 we never made it into Bama territory. Looked pretty wide to me.
Looks like there's about a 100 point increase in IQ when you cross into Alabama. While Les is chewing grass, Sabin's chewing arse and winning NC's.
Call it what you will Miles is Sabin's bitch and it kills me as a LSU alum and fan
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:15 pm to lsuexpert57
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How much better of a coach do you think Saban is than say...Jim Harbaugh?
All I care about is how much better he is than Miles....and the difference is LIGHTYEARS
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:21 am to lsuexpert57
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For the 1,000,000th time, LES MILES DOES NOT CALL THE PLAYS!
stud runs what les wants and that is BO BALL
stud has admitted this as well as mett. you know what? i have a inside source also. An ex-LSU player and they run what miles wants to run. Been that way since 2010. open you damn eyes.
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I know this for a fact due to inside information but you don't even have to have that to know he doesn't call the plays. HE DOESN"T CARRY A PLAYSHEET!
he has carried a playsheet before not long ago. you need to go back and watch some games. and because he did not carry a play sheet all the time you do not think they are running what he wants? you do not think he can veto it?
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 9:30 am
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:23 am to CptBengal
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All I care about is how much better he is than Miles....and the difference is LIGHTYEARS
a blind monkey could see that.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:28 am to lsuexpert57
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95% of all games are won by who plays harder and better and with more purpose and will. Who tackles, who blocks,who kicks, who catches and who throws the best. Thats who wins the games. Every coach says that over and over again and its the silly fan that ignores that.
yeah you are right, LSU is just a bunch of pussies since they cannot run against 8 and 9 man fronts on a regular basis. The playcalling is just fine. same with throwing passes when the majority are curls and slants against DB's who are squatting. yep pussies. they should always execute that!
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 9:50 am
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