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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:05 pm to
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My God, this dudes sucks off Jefferson worse than chilge sucks off Anthony Jennings.
Please let me know when you are ready to contribute something substantive to this thread.


Nevertheless, I appreciate the bump.


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Face it, JJ was a terrible qb. So was Lee. It was an extreme dark period for the position at LSU
Crowton was a dark period for LSU's offense after he abandoned Jimbo's offense.

Neither Jefferson nor Lee were terrible QBs. Both of them got better under Miles, and both got much better after Crowton left.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65112 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:06 pm to
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Lee tried to make it in the CFL just last year.

He lasted about a week.


so about as impressive as Jefferson's career in the CFL
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:06 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's




Lee had a higher completion percentage, higher TD per attempt percentage, lower interception per attempt percentage, higher yardage per attempt percentage, and a higher QB rating.

Both were flawed QBs, but Jefferson was not better than Lee that year.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65112 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Because they are not comparable. Lee did not play in the SECCG or the BCSCG.

Lee didn't play against Arkansas either, so why are we using that game in the comparison?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:11 pm to
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You really love you some JJ
I really love me some truth.

When it comes to Jefferson, this board has a severe deficiency of truth.

People say that Jefferson was terrible. That's not true.

People say Jefferson is the reason why LSU lost the BCSCG. That's not true.

People say Miles quit or was moronic for sticking with Jefferson in the BCSCG. Miles made the smart call to stick with Jefferson. It just did not work out like it had in the past.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:13 pm to
That post may be the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet.

Kudos.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:15 pm to
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It's hard to imagine anyone playing worse than JJ. I don't think it's possible.
Of course it's possible.

Jefferson threw only one interception in the BCSCG in 17 attempts. Lee threw two interceptions in the GOTC in 7 attempts.

Lee is EXACTLY the type of QB that Alabama's defense feasts upon, and Alabama routinely feasted upon Lee throughout his career.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Salviati


you are pathetic man, give it up
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:18 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's.


Hey ms. Jefferson....I think this is where I just post data and not say anything else. No need to say anything I wouldn't expect.....I think people can figure you out.


J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13244 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:20 pm to
The whole offense was shite in bcsncg nobody could've rescued that one.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Lee is EXACTLY the type of QB that Alabama's defense feasts upon, and Alabama routinely feasted upon Lee throughout his career.


That's why Lee was brought into the game late in 2010 with a third and long right? He bailed JJ out of that game, because the coaches didn't have confidence that JJ could complete a third and 15 or whatever it was......and they didn't want to give the ball back to Bama with a little over a minute left (which we obviously no why).

You are a real piece of work JJ.







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Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:25 pm to
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Miles made the smart call to stick with Jefferson. It just did not work out like it had in the past.


which past are you referring to?

The one where Lee had to save us against Mcnese St? Or was it the one he had to bail us out against Tenn? Or the game against Florida where we were dead in the water until Lee bailed us out? Or the game against Alabama where Lee came in to complete a clutch 3rd and long (JJ sacked again from holding ball too long) to seal the victory against Bama instead of turning the ball back over to them with over a minute to go? Which one of these didn't work out for LSU by bringing J Lee into the game. You are pathetic...and you have to be prejudiced....I'm guessing you are either JJ or a family member.....
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:25 pm to
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Jordan jefferson was 3/10 for 30 Yds with 2 INTs

Jarrett Lee was 16/23 for 185 YDs

But I guess it's because Jefferson couldn't go for it on 4th down
Lee had the benefit of going for it on fourth down. Jefferson did not.

Jefferson also had 100 yards rushing and a rushing TD.
Lee had -15 yards rushing and no TDs. And by no TDs, I mean no TDs passing or rushing.


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Lee came on the final drive because he was the two-minute drill QB in 2010. He failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Good job, Lee.
So Lee won the game for LSU? Thanks for clearing that up
No, Lee did NOT win the game, but he certainly helped. Again, good job, Lee.


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In the Alabama game, Jefferson was 10 of 13. Lee was 4 of 7. Jefferson threw a brilliant TD pass. Lee completed an important 47 yard pass on third down. Good job, Lee.
why was Lee in the game when we needed to pass for a first down?
Lee was in the game because Jefferson was injured, not because LSU needed to pass for a first down.


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Lee came in against Tennessee and Florida because he was the two-minute offense QB.
why was Lee our two minute QB? it's ok, you can say it
Lee had an extra year in the system over Jefferson. He had more time to learn the two-minute offense. Plus, it gives something for the backup QB to focus on.

If the backup QB is not dramatically worse than the starter, let the backup focus on the two-minute offense.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:27 pm to
This is fricking ridiculous. If not for Jefferson, we don't even play the last two games of the 2011 season.

Lee was a competent passing quarterback.
Jefferson was a competent running quarterback.

They were both the worst we've had since Marcus Randall.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:27 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's
Lee had a higher completion percentage, higher TD per attempt percentage, lower interception per attempt percentage, higher yardage per attempt percentage, and a higher QB rating.

Both were flawed QBs, but Jefferson was not better than Lee that year.
You are wrong. Lee did not have better regular season 2011 stats. Jefferson did.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Lee tried to make it in the CFL just last year.

He lasted about a week.
so about as impressive as Jefferson's career in the CFL
I'm not arguing that Jefferson should have made it as a CFL QB.

Are you actually suggesting that Lee should have had a career in the CFL?
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:30 pm to
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You are wrong. Lee did not have better regular season 2011 stats. Jefferson did


add all games played that year dumbass
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:30 pm to
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J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:30 pm to
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They were both the worst we've had since Marcus Randall.


both better than Jennings
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:32 pm to
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You are wrong. Lee did not have better 2011 stats. Jefferson did.


Good argument. Way to refute your incorrect statement so effectively.

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