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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:11 pm to
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Ware did not have his back turned when Jefferson started his motion to pass




Relook at the play dipshit............
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:18 pm to
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Tyrann Mathieu and the rest of the LSU defense won that game for LSU.
Tyrann Mathieu had a terrific game. Nevertheless, the offense scored four touchdowns, 28 points. Georgia scored 10. LSU wins without the Honey Badger.

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Mathieu had a 47 yard punt return down to the UGA 17 yard line. We then ran off tackle three straight plays for a TD. How do you give credit to Jefferson for that?
The second play of those three straight off tackle plays was a zone read. LSU ran the ball better when Jefferson was the QB. The defense had to account for his running ability, the career leading rusher of LSU QBs.


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Jefferson had two drives that ENTIRE GAME that went over 4 plays, FOUR PLAYS
LSU's offense scored four TDs. Jefferson worked the option and the zone read, AND Jefferson threw a TD pass and NO interceptions. I'm sure his Georgia counterpart wished he had fewer turnovers in the SECCG.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:22 pm to
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Jefferson was waived so that Tampa Bay could have a replacement for Da'Quan Bowers, a projected starter who suffered a probable season-ending injury.
why didn't anyone else pick him up?
I am NOT arguing that Jefferson should have played in the NFL. Are you? If not, why are even asking this question.


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his grades were low because he was fundamentally the worst QB prior to the combine and was after the combine.
Well, he was better than Lee.


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i'm sure every QB it the combine was invited to someone's training camp and many more that weren't.
Huh?


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that doesn't really help prove jefferson was good.
He was invited by the NFL. Lee was not. Those are facts.


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Lee stayed at a camp much, much longer than jefferson.
Lee was cut. Jefferson was waived.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:25 pm to
He was invited by the NFL. Lee was not. Those are facts.
Lee earned an NFL paycheck for longer than Jefferson. That's also a fact
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Lee was not drafted either.
see above, champ.
See above what?

Lee was signed before Jefferson by a whole week?

Is there something else to which you are referring?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Well, he was better than Lee.

except he wasn't
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:27 pm to
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Lee was picked up by someone before Jefferson and actually stuck around long enough to play in 4 preseason games. If Jefferson was so much better, why did no one else give him a shot in the preseason?
Both Jefferson and Lee were signed to be camp arms.

Did someone else pick up Lee when he was cut?
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:29 pm to
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Ware did not have his back turned when Jefferson started his motion to pass
Relook at the play dipshit............
I did dipshit. He turns his back as Jefferson starts his motion.

It's very unfortunate timing.

Dipshit.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:30 pm to
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He was invited by the NFL. Lee was not. Those are facts.
Lee earned an NFL paycheck for longer than Jefferson. That's also a fact


They were both signed to be camp arms.

Are you actually suggesting that Lee had a career in the NFL . . . or should have?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Are you actually suggesting that Lee had a career in the NFL . . . or should have?

I'm suggesting Jefferson couldn't even find his way to an NFL camp period. Lee at least managed to play in 4 preseason games, regardless of what his purpose was in camp. No one gave Jefferson the time of day. Jefferson couldn't even make it to OTAs with a team
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:35 pm to
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Well, he was better than Lee.
except he wasn't
His career stats are better than Lee's. His SEC stats are better than Lee's. His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's.

Jefferson was unfortunate to be the starting QB against an Alabama team that was desperate for redemption. LSU should have never had to play Bama in the BCSCG. LSU beat Bama in their house. There should not have been a rematch.

Lee is fortunate that he did not have to face that Bama team in the BCSCG. He would have played worse than Jefferson. That's my opinion, but it's strongly supported by Lee's history as a QB, Lee's history against Bama, and the way Bama played in the BCSCG.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:38 pm to
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I'm suggesting Jefferson couldn't even find his way to an NFL camp period. Lee at least managed to play in 4 preseason games, regardless of what his purpose was in camp. No one gave Jefferson the time of day. Jefferson couldn't even make it to OTAs with a team
Lee was fortunate to be signed by the Chargers. Jefferson was unfortunate to be signed by the Bucs who waived him to find a replacement for Da'Quan Bowers.

But honestly, if you want to play this game, Jefferson played pro football longer than Lee.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:38 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's.

why do you continue to intentionally remove two horrible games so it makes Jefferson look better?
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Jefferson was unfortunate to be the starting QB against an Alabama team that was desperate for redemption. LSU should have never had to play Bama in the BCSCG. LSU beat Bama in their house. There should not have been a rematch.

but he did play against them and was AWFUL
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Lee is fortunate that he did not have to face that Bama team in the BCSCG. He would have played worse than Jefferson.

prove it
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That's my opinion, but it's strongly supported by Lee's history as a QB

why is it that in 2010, when LSU had to throw to win or seal games late, Lee came in for Jefferson? See Alabama, Tennessee, Florida,
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:42 pm to
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But honestly, if you want to play this game, Jefferson played pro football longer than Lee.

Lee saw the writing on the wall. Jefferson has resorted to playing in 4 team leagues created for washups with no prayer of making the NFL
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:58 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's.
why do you continue to intentionally remove two horrible games so it makes Jefferson look better?
Because they are not comparable. Lee did not play in the SECCG or the BCSCG.

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Lee is fortunate that he did not have to face that Bama team in the BCSCG. He would have played worse than Jefferson.
prove it
By the grace of God, Lee is blessed such that no one can PROVE it. He had a terrible history against Bama. It was wretched and awful. That's why the coaching staff selected Jefferson to play against Bama.


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why is it that in 2010, when LSU had to throw to win games late, Lee came in for Jefferson? See Alabama, Tennessee, Florida,
Lee came in against Bama in 2010 because Jefferson was hurt. Lee came in against Tennessee and Florida because he was the two-minute offense QB.

In the Tennessee game, LSU had three scoring drives. Jefferson led two of the scoring drives. Lee did lead the final two LSU drives. He threw an interception on the first of those drives. On the final drive, Lee failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Jefferson successfully finished that final drive.

In the Florida game, Jefferson had 42 yards rushing and 100 yards passing; Lee had 124 yards passing. Jefferson rushed for two TDs; Lee threw for two TDs. Jefferson led two scoring drives. Lee came on the final drive because he was the two-minute drill QB in 2010. He failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Good job, Lee.

In the Alabama game, Jefferson was 10 of 13. Lee was 4 of 7. Jefferson threw a brilliant TD pass. Lee completed an important 47 yard pass on third down. Good job, Lee.

Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:58 pm to
My God, this dudes sucks off Jefferson worse than chilge sucks off Anthony Jennings. Face it, JJ was a terrible qb. So was Lee. It was an extreme dark period for the position at LSU
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:01 pm to
You really love you some JJ
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:02 pm to
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Lee saw the writing on the wall.
Lee tried to make it in the CFL just last year.

He lasted about a week.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Lee is fortunate that he did not have to face that Bama team in the BCSCG. He would have played worse than Jefferson

It's hard to imagine anyone playing worse than JJ. I don't think it's possible.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64754 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:05 pm to
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In the Tennessee game,

Jordan jefferson was 3/10 for 30 Yds with 2 INTs

Jarrett Lee was 16/23 for 185 YDs

But I guess it's because Jefferson couldn't go for it on 4th down
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. Lee came on the final drive because he was the two-minute drill QB in 2010. He failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Good job, Lee.

So Lee won the game for LSU? Thanks for clearing that up
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In the Alabama game, Jefferson was 10 of 13. Lee was 4 of 7. Jefferson threw a brilliant TD pass. Lee completed an important 47 yard pass on third down. Good job, Lee.


why was Lee in the game when we needed to pass for a first down?
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Lee came in against Tennessee and Florida because he was the two-minute offense QB.


why was Lee our two minute QB? it's ok, you can say it
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 1:05 pm
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