re: what are the TCU team weaknesses?

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QB and HC are both considered better for sure.

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what are the TCU team weaknesses?

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Playing in the Big 12

Well, I kinda' hope their DL proves to be weak...after all several of them are from La....would hate for them to show us up on national TV...might be embarrassing....to the recruiters, that is...lol

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Patterson went 7-6 last year in his first season in the Big 12,,,kinda' puts all those one loss seasons when they were in the Mountain West in perspective...
He is a very good coach and he has done great things at TCU but there are no facts that back up your argument that he is better than Les Miles...none.

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And TCU wouldn't have had a one loss or undefeated season in the Mountain West with the personel losses and injuries they had last year.

Boise State, San Diego State, and Fresno State probably would have beaten them.

In 2007, TCU had a similar scenario. Their all american defensive end had mental issues and had to quit. TCU had to break in a new freshman quarterback. They went 7-5.

If TCU went 7-6 in the Big 12 with the Rose Bowl champion team, you'd have a point.

Ok single season comparison "first year with the big boys"

CLM first season as a HC was also in the Big 12. He went 4-7 with 6 losses in the Big 12 conference. He did this with a team that had been a charter member of the Big 12 for 5 years and was previously in the Big 8. His players were recruits that were recruited in the Big 12.

CGP first year as a HC in the Big 12 he went 7-6 with 5 losses in conference. He did that with a team that was new to the conference, with recruits that were recruited in the MWC, and with a team that was gutted by injury and suspension.



hmmmm. well lets look at HC performance



In CLM HC carrier 12 seasons(4 yrs at OSU and 8 yrs at LSU) he has a 113-42 (72.9% wins)record with 63-33 (65.6%) in conference. He has two conference titles and one NC in that time. He has had 1 one loss season and no undefeated seasons. He ended the season top 10 in the coaches and AP polls 5 times. He has had one seven loss season, 3 five loss seasons, 1 four loss season, and one 3 loss season. His bowl record is 6-5.

In CGP HC carrier 12 seasons all at TCU (4 in CUSA, 7 MWC, 1 Big 12) he has a 116-35 (76.8%)record with 72-23 (75.8%) record in conference. He has 5 conference titles, 2 one loss seasons and one undefeated season. He ended the season top 10 in coaches 4 times and in the AP 3 times all from a non BCS conference. He has had 3 6 loss seasons, one five loss season, and no 4 or 3 loss seasons. His bowl record is 7-4.

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Miles, on the other hand, in many more years in an even better conference, has never lost that many games, even without "Saban's players."

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FWIW I just proved everything about this sentence total B.S. with the exception of "an even better conference". You should know your facts before opening your mouth.

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Love the way TCU has been able to compete with the big boys with lesser talent. They are very well-coached.

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With lack of depth they lost 6 games. They wouldnt have made a bowl if they played in the sec.

Look TCU isnt as talented as say Texas or OU or a lot of the sec schools, but they are no slouch. They constantly had higher rated classes than any other school in their conference. Now that they will play teams that have more talent, they will struggle unless they can start stealing kids from the other texas schools to put them over the edge of some of the other big 12 teams.

They Just had the #30, 37 and 26 ranked class. They were actually more talented then a lot of the big 12 teams, yet lost 6 games.

You had UT, OU, and WVU with higher ranked class in 2013.

UT, OU, Ttech, OSU with higher rated class in 2012.

UT, OU, Ttech in 2011.

UT, OU, WVU, Ttech, OSU in 2010.


Patterson has shown absolutely nothing to prove he is a better coach than Les Miles. He has made a rep off of beating inferior teams.

Math is 4 gayfers. lulz

TCU and San diego state were the only teams that were located in a state with any talent. You were beating up on the likes of fricking wyoming.


How many wins does GP have over top 25 teams since 2001? how many teams have you even played in the top 25 since 2001? How many bcs champions do you play in any given year? we play 3 every year, some times 4.

You have beat up on inferior opponents. shite you are in the uper 1/4 of talented teams in the big 12.

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and what major thing are you referring to?

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The national championship Les has.

Their numbers are very comparable if you leave out opponents played and how that factors into the wins/losses.

The coaching comparison is stupid for many reasons, but one reason no one seems to be mentioning is that Les has a clear advantage in coaching a better football school with more resources.

The better question would be whether or not GP would have a better or worse record than Les if GP coached LSU. Of course that is purely hypothetical, but if TCU goes undefeated this season (not likely) and LSU loses 3 games, these same rantards will be calling for Les' head and begging GP to come here.