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re: We have bottomed out - steadying and building forthcoming

Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:09 pm to
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I agree but do really think 10-2 gets him fired after what we saw last year? I'm not sure it will.

10-2 at this point means 7-1 in the SEC, which could very well put LSU in Atlanta.

Win the SEC at 11-2 overall, and you think they'd keep the SEC champs out of the payoffs?

inb4:

Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79187 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Win the SEC at 11-2 overall, and you think they'd keep the SEC champs out of the payoffs?
considering the perception that the SEC is not as good as it used to be...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:11 pm to
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Win the SEC at 11-2 overall, and you think they'd keep the SEC champs out of the payoffs?


Yes.
If the big 10, acc, pac 12 and big 12 all have a 1 loss or less champ they most certainly will leave the sec champ out. After week 2 they are already starting the talk that the sec isnt head and shoulders above the other conferences.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:14 pm to
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sidering the perception that the SEC is not as good as it used to be


Yep. You had the east favorite almost lose to App state.
A playoff contender out of the west lose to Wisky.
The rest of the country is itching to leave us out of the playoff.

No way does a 2 loss sec champ get in over a 1 loss conf champ of another p5 conf
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79187 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:15 pm to
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The rest of the country is itching to leave us out of the playoff.
and rightfully so. the conference had a horrific week 1.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:16 pm to
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considering the perception that the SEC is not as good as it used to be...

I think you'd have to be at least one year removed from an SEC team holding the trophy to not invite the champ - especially with only one conference loss. 9 of the last 13 champions have been SEC teams, I think reports of the SEC's demise have been greatly exaggerated. This isn't 2001 we're talking about here.

Besides, LSU has won it all before with 2 losses, it'd be a shame if they were denied another shot at it.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:18 pm to
I think it's very possible.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:19 pm to
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I think you'd have to be at least one year removed from an SEC team holding the trophy to not invite the cham


1 team doesnt make a conf. And last year should carry zero weight in the voters mind.
If a 2 loss sec champ gets in over a 1 loss p5 conf champ the this playoff is bullshite. If wins and losses dont matter then why are we playing the season? Just put the 4 teams with the most nfl talent in the playoff.
At what point does resume matter more than biased eyetest.

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9 of the last 13 champions have been SEC team


Yeah because the voters always let a sec team in and there were only 2 spots.

This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:22 pm to
I'd think things would have to play out very differently than they have. Let's say that loss is to Auburn and their only other loss would be to Bama, and LSU looks good beats Bama and Etling really playing well then maybe. I just don't see it happening though. But 10-2 and a SEC championship Miles isn't going anywhere.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Besides, LSU has won it all before with 2 losses, it'd be a shame if they were denied another shot at it.


Yeah but everyone else also had 2 losses.

I wouldnt be mad one bit if a 1 loss p5 conf champ got in over a 2 loss sec champ.


The sec isnt nearly as good as it has been 4 or 5 years ago.


Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Lambeau represented the bottom


From your keyboard to God's ears. It would be absolutely great if that turned out to be the bottom.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:26 pm to
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If the big 10, acc, pac 12 and big 12 all have a 1 loss or less champ

I put the odds of that at < 50%.

...of course, I also put the odds of LSU going 7-1 in the SEC <50%, so there's that.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:30 pm to
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I'd think things would have to play out very differently than they have. Let's say that loss is to Auburn and their only other loss would be to Bama, and LSU looks good beats Bama and Etling really playing well then maybe. I just don't see it happening though. But 10-2 and a SEC championship Miles isn't going anywhere.

Hell, LSU could lose to Bama, and Bama could lose to Tennessee and Auburn.

I'm just saying that going 10-2 in the regular season at this point would be a pretty damned good season, and could quite possibly lead to the playoffs.

I'm NOT saying that it would be a sure thing.
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8753 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:30 pm to
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All this means that the nearly 8 year QB draught (aside from Zach Mett) are behind us.
And you could tell that from 3 quarters against a fricking FCS team, can ya? Yeah, well, you're in for a surprise I'm afraid.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Yeah but everyone else also had 2 losses.

Not BCS/P5 Kansas, they were at 11-1 before the bowls.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7005 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:34 pm to
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He did what every good coach does wheb the game is won against an inferior team. He ran the ball and ran deep routes. There is zero reasons for us to put tendencies and aggressive plays on tape for sec dc. Throwing the ball against JSU does nothing for our qb.


Not when the team has not figured out a base offense yet. One cares about keeping things hidden when there is something to hide. Besides, Miles has always been a stop us if you can even though you know what is coming kind of guy.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5696 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:56 pm to
I feel like I have heard this "Next year will be our year" battle cry for the last 5-8 years. At some point we all should realize what is holding LSU back with all the talent we bring in every year.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Not BCS/P5 Kansas, they were at 11-1 before the bowls.



Ok. If lsu had been left out then we would have no argument.
At some point if voters keep using i test then the regular season will lose importance.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Next year will be our year" battle cry for the last 5-8 years. At some point we all should realize what is holding LSU back with all the talent we bring in every year.


We didnt bring back talent in 2014.
All of our starting skill position players combined for a total of 2 starts. We started the 2nd youngest roster in a major conf.
In 2015 we were a defense away from a 11 win season.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:14 pm to
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Not when the team has not figured out a base offense yet


We know what our base offense is. Also you dont figure out a base offense against JSU.
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One cares about keeping things hidden when there is something to hide.


Really? So our tendencies in 3rd and long isnt valuable? Our tendencies are the 2nd most valuable thing to an offense behind execution.
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Besides, Miles has always been a stop us if you can even though you know what is coming kind of guy.



Not on 3rd down.

And if you really believe that then this sentence by you
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Not when the team has not figured out a base offense yet
contradicts it.

A good coach goes basic as hell once the game is won against an inferior team.
If we were playing a quality team then yeah get Etling reps, but ita clear as day miles wanted to and did shut down the offense once the game was won. The success of an offense against JSU is meaningless so there is no reason to go aggressive.

I still agree with replacing Miles but i wont shite on him for doing the smart thing against an inferior opponent.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:17 pm
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