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re: Watch it Again. Root Causes were Defensive scheme and Dropped Balls
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:09 am to CottonWasKing
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:09 am to CottonWasKing
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he is a good one and he played well enough for us to win
No. If everyone else played great, then maybe. He failed on three TD opportunities. The underthrow to Thomas, the failure to loft it to Nabers on the fade, the failure to find the hot read on fourth and goal. Then he screwed up another opportunity when he misread the read option. That is not winning football from your QB.
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:12 am to SlidellCajun
This is to easy. A blind man can watch the tape and see the problems.
If you stop the LSU run you win. JD is an average QB but can run. Fifth year qb’s should be above average. They should not eat sacks on fourth down in the red zone. They should not eat sacks on third down. JD shouldn’t be throwing to a receiver on 3rd or forth down who isn’t beyond the first down marker.
Or OL up the middle is even weaker than I’ve stated in the past on this board and recruiting. So eat crow dumb asses who down voted me. The middle is further weakened by HP-4 being a linebacker in safety clothing. A 6’1” 220 lb athletic young man is neither an end or a linebacker. He can safety blitz. We need meat in the middle. Not an inexperienced Small linebacker. Sure he can rush from the edge and beat some tight end/RB or tackle from time to time and blow up running plays and screens. But he needs to learn the safety position not linebacker.
If you pound the rock against LSU you will tire the front 7 and the pass rush is weakened. The secondary isn’t savvy enough, strong enough or big enough and technically sound enough to tackle.
If you stop the LSU run you win. JD is an average QB but can run. Fifth year qb’s should be above average. They should not eat sacks on fourth down in the red zone. They should not eat sacks on third down. JD shouldn’t be throwing to a receiver on 3rd or forth down who isn’t beyond the first down marker.
Or OL up the middle is even weaker than I’ve stated in the past on this board and recruiting. So eat crow dumb asses who down voted me. The middle is further weakened by HP-4 being a linebacker in safety clothing. A 6’1” 220 lb athletic young man is neither an end or a linebacker. He can safety blitz. We need meat in the middle. Not an inexperienced Small linebacker. Sure he can rush from the edge and beat some tight end/RB or tackle from time to time and blow up running plays and screens. But he needs to learn the safety position not linebacker.
If you pound the rock against LSU you will tire the front 7 and the pass rush is weakened. The secondary isn’t savvy enough, strong enough or big enough and technically sound enough to tackle.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 10:15 am to iBack8569
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The LSU offense sucks right now. They have zero physicality on the line or from the backs. Receivers are unreliable. The QB is scared to throw past the chains. They also are led by an OC who seems to not use the talent available to him, and prefers to pigeon hole an athlete playing quarterback into a pocket passer role even after a year of him not being that type. The defense was bad against FSU, no doubt. But, the offense with LSUs talent should at least have been able to score with FSU.
Pretty stupid to base all of this off of one game. There is some truth, of course, but to draw conclusions and treat them as fact, especially after the first game is stupid.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 10:18 am
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:11 am to tonydtigr
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Not all of it is hating but there definitely is also hating.
That is ridiculous. The man is just not capable of doing what he needs to be able to do on the field to compete at the level he's being asked to.
No hate involved. Just observation and deduction. The coach is who is really at fault for being stubborn and not benching him and doing something else. It's not Jaydens fault.
Conversely, a bunch of ya'll sure do hate Nussmeyer.
See how that works?
No, I don't see how that works. Are you speaking for every poster on the sight who has posted something about Daniels? I won't post anything suggesting there are not haters where Nussmeier (you should spell his name right, BTW) is concerned either because there probably are.
There is a lot more vitriol towards Daniels because he is the starter, if Nuss was the starter it would be flipped. LSU has two good QBs, IMO, and I for one am happy we have them both.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 11:15 am to lsudave1
Please don’t compare BK to Saban. At this point CLM has more accomplishments.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:10 pm to Curtis Lowe
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Also lost to ULM and UAB, but that never happens to great coaches.
And got stomped by Utah.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:11 pm to Tigaux6661
I'd add team speed and size to a lesser extent too. They simply seemed faster to the edge and outsized us at certain units.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:21 pm to Tigaux6661
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Lacey needed to get benched for the second half
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:23 pm to Tigaux6661
You people are impossible
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:33 pm to mikeytig
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Can one of you gurus explain
12 personnel is 1 running back and 2 TEs both with 2 WRs. 21 is 2 RBs and 1 TE. These are bigger schemes.
Nickel is 5DBs. Usually 3 CBs and 2 Safeties. So that one DB is smaller than a RB or TE. And from a formation standpoint, that guy is not in the box to defend run efficiently.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:37 pm to Tigaux6661
Anything but JD right
Posted on 9/8/23 at 12:47 pm to jlbasm
JD is the easy button. But if you look again he played good enough. He didn't throw over the top but he had a lot of deep out routes he hit.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:50 pm to jgriffith
Let’s see the 95 million dollar coach bounce back !
Posted on 9/8/23 at 1:56 pm to financetiger38
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Ohhhh no Nuss might throw a 50 yard INT on 3rd and long, can’t have that. Much better to throw a 3 yard drag on 3rd and 7 and then punt it 45 yards
Playing Nuss absolutely could result in faster and more frequent 3 and outs or interceptions. Even if you don’t score, going the length of the field slowly is better than going 3 and out. At the very least you give your defense a rest. These are just basic facts. At the very least, you may lose the game either way, but at least if the defense can stay rested, you might not get blown out. Time of possession matters.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:04 pm to J2thaROC
With the threat of a deep ball you’re not going to have safeties cheating up thus creating more room for running backs to run. The pass opens up the run. We saw this time after time in 2019.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:37 pm to mdomingue
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There is a lot more vitriol towards Daniels because he is the starter, if Nuss was the starter it would be flipped.
Somehow, I don't think that's what you meant when you were talking about people on here "hating" Daniels. BTW the whole hatred thing in reference to why he is not favored by many as our quarterback is such a lazy man's argument.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 2:54 pm to tonydtigr
We need to kill this pro vs anti JD stuff when the real problem is Denbrock. People who criticize JD are absolutely correct in what they see are his limitations. People who defend him are absolutely right in his athleticism and upside. The problem is play calling. Everyone would agree our best 3 game stretch with Daniels was Fla, OM and Bama. Daniels averaged 18 rushes per game during that stretch most of them designed runs. The RBs averaged 22 rushes per game during that stretch and the run/pass ratio was +50% run. Compare that to Sunday and most of our losses if not all of them, +60% passes called, 12 rushes for the backs and over 81% of the total plays for JD. We have a winning formula but Denbrock often goes against it. That’s where the blame lies on offense.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:10 pm to Tigaux6661
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He didn't throw over the top but he had a lot of deep out routes he hit.
Lmao. Then you go on to say it isn’t the problem. I’d your qb doesn’t use 80% of the field. That’s a huge problem and makes it tough to draw up plays. Time to move on.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:25 pm to Tigaux6661
What about FSU drops? They were passing all game and again I think FSU had as many drops......I look forward to a great game against Grambling then we shall see what's what....
Posted on 9/8/23 at 3:27 pm to SMD
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tough to draw up plays
Go watch it again without emotions. Plays were ok. JD hit enough of em to win. Drops were fatal. Two drops in the 3rd quarter that would have given us 14 points. 4th quarter becomes different.
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