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re: Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a .....
Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:46 pm to 1984Tiger
Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:46 pm to 1984Tiger
My bad, I didn't mean to hurt any of you guys feelings. If you can't handle the truth, don't read the post. As far a finishing 2nd, you are probably the parent that tells your kid "it's ok you lost, you tried hard" or "it's not your fault, the officials lost the game for you"!!! Second is for losers. If you are not in this world to be the best you can be at anything you do, then you deserve to finish second. Finally, if you get paid 4.5 million dollars, you better be able to handle anything that is thrown at you. The last 3 SEC teams a Les Miles offense has faced, they have scored 1 TD in 12 quarters. Is that good coaching? ULM scored 35 against one of those defenses. Tell me something that is in one of my post that is not fact. Not even my opinion, it's fact. Well, it's fact for people that understand football maybe that's why you and some of your boys on this forum "dont get it"...... It has been said by many, for sure one "the 2012 team is better than 2011" ....billy gonzales
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Posted on 10/8/12 at 2:57 pm to Dontsettle12
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Jimbo Fisher had him playing good football. Point being Fisher game planned the opponent,coached the QB's and called the plays. This is not happening at LSU...
Jimbo Fisher was up by 16 with one of the most talented programs of the last 12 years and he botched it. FSU has out recruited LSU since 2002 and beyond. Yet we have 2 sec titles and a bcs championship.
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:46 pm to Dontsettle12
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Dontsettle12
I saw in another post that you are a coach somewhere ... please honor us by posting at what level you coach (NFL, college, high school, middle school, Pop Warner, Madden) and your coaching record. I'm sure we'll all be very impressed with your record of never having finished anywhere below 1st Place in your conference, otherwise, by your definition, that makes you a loser!
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:48 pm to Dontsettle12
quote:Let it be noted that neither Rivers nor Bolden are getting any reps in this season, not even in the first five cupcake games. So what has changed? Nothing. And if either of them are called into service for any reason, guess where square one begins for them and the team...
Mettenberger is catching a lot of flack because people thought he would be the savior at QB. But because Miles chose not to get him many reps in 2011, this guy comes in with hardly any playing experience.
This post was edited on 10/8/12 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:36 pm to 1984Tiger
I find it extremely odd that some of you guys take these post so personally. These boards are for opinions and because you don't agree, you try to show up the poster. You are no different than the people that bash Les Miles. Instead of trying to show me up, why don't you come with a legit reason that my post is false or out of line then someone might respect you. Otherwise, take your panties off and grow a pair
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:41 pm to Dontsettle12
Its not taking it personally. It's just that posts like this one are just stupid:
You make it out to be like winning the national championship is easy and an automatic if you have good talent. A lot of shite has to go your way in college football to even PLAY for a national championship, let alone win it. To say in 7 years he no doubt SHOULD have won 3 championships is beyond fricking retarded. How many other schools have had the talent to win championships during that time? Or is LSU the only school that has enough talent to win it? Since the BCS came about only 3 teams have won it twice (us being one of them) and you think we should have won it 3 times in 7 years.
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No doubt during Miles tenure, the Tigers should have 2 maybe 3 national championships with the talent he has had.
You make it out to be like winning the national championship is easy and an automatic if you have good talent. A lot of shite has to go your way in college football to even PLAY for a national championship, let alone win it. To say in 7 years he no doubt SHOULD have won 3 championships is beyond fricking retarded. How many other schools have had the talent to win championships during that time? Or is LSU the only school that has enough talent to win it? Since the BCS came about only 3 teams have won it twice (us being one of them) and you think we should have won it 3 times in 7 years.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:47 pm to Dontsettle12
When someone posts comments like
I'm going to call them out on it ... especially if they claim to be a coach themselves. As a coach, you of all people should know that it's just not as easy as most of the bozos on this site claim. shite happens to teams, and you can't always blame the coach. And yes, teams do finish 2nd, and in most cases, they finish behind a team that just so happens to be better on a given day.
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As far a finishing 2nd, you are probably the parent that tells your kid "it's ok you lost, you tried hard" or "it's not your fault, the officials lost the game for you"!!! Second is for losers.
I'm going to call them out on it ... especially if they claim to be a coach themselves. As a coach, you of all people should know that it's just not as easy as most of the bozos on this site claim. shite happens to teams, and you can't always blame the coach. And yes, teams do finish 2nd, and in most cases, they finish behind a team that just so happens to be better on a given day.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:52 pm to guttata
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18-2, last 20 games. I know, Les knows nothing.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:54 pm to PurpleAndGold86
See, that's a great point and I agree with your post because that hypothetical. Point is people are content with us losing games because of Miles record. Look, sometimes it's not your night or teams are better than you. It's the way we lose games that frustrate me. Relying on ST and defense. Not to beat a dead horse, but in national champ game there is no tomorrow. Throw the kitchen sink at Alabama, do something different and it never happened. And unfortunately, that same mindset has carried over this year.
Here is the scary thing, LSU had fumbles, TOs penalties and injuries (which are all part of the game) and still should have won. Sometimes coaching can overcome the above to find away to win. Make sense?
Here is the scary thing, LSU had fumbles, TOs penalties and injuries (which are all part of the game) and still should have won. Sometimes coaching can overcome the above to find away to win. Make sense?
Posted on 10/9/12 at 12:57 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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There are 124 other teams who would be chomping at the bit to finish 2nd.
name one with a $ 4 MM coach
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:00 pm to rbdallas
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name one with a $ 4 MM coach
Mack Brown? Bob Stoops?
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:00 pm to rbdallas
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name one with a $ 4 MM coach
BOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:02 pm to Dontsettle12
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Sometimes coaching can overcome the above to find away to win. Make sense?
Correct, but you just said it, sometimes good coaching can help. Other times, turning the football over, penalties, and not scoring when inside the ten just can't be overcome.
Look the bottom line is we went up against a team that played better in the second half of the game than we did and they came out ahead at the end. This loss didn't even hurt the chances of winning a natinal title this year. No, the offense is not very godo right now. I think that it has the potential to be good. And if it does start to perform like most of think it is capable of performing, then we will win games. If we win our games, then this loss literally won't even hurt us.
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Point is people are content with us losing games because of Miles record.
Yes I am content with winning 2 SEC championship and playing for 2 national championships in 6 years, which is as good or better than any other program in the entire country in terms of success.
If you don't agree with his philosophy of relying on defense and ST, thats fine, he doesn't care and neither does the team, just as much as they don't care that some people love that philosophy. It is the way he coaches, it is his mindset, it is what he is pumping into the culture of program and how he is game planning. It has worked to the tune of about an 80% winning record in the toughest conference in college football. He is 5-3 against Bama since he came to LSU. I dont think there are many other programs that are going to do much better than that, so the results pretty much speak for themseleves.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:05 pm to Dontsettle12
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Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a .....
What?!? What is it?!?!?!?!?
The suspense is killing me. platypus?
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:10 pm to rbdallas
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name one with a $ 4 MM coach
OK well you were dumb enough to walk into this one.
Brown and Stoops are actually both over 5 Million.
Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is bringing in a cool 3.8 million along with Mark Richt at UGA. I am sure both of those guys would have loved to have been beaten in the national championship game last year.
Gene Chizik, Gary Patterson and Brian Kelly all make well over 3 million and I am sure would have loved to have lost in the big game.
Urban Meyer makes 4 million a year and is currently on probation and can't even compete in the post season.
And finally Jim Grobe at Wake Forest, Charlie Weis at Kansas, and June Jones at SMU all make well over 2 million to compete for mediocrity and a bowl berth AT BEST.
So maybe you would prefer to bring in a coach for 2 million and go 6-6 and 7-5 every year instead of competing for a championship.
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:13 pm to Dontsettle12
I dont post often, if at all, but I'm shocked to see so many people bashing this analysis. From an actual scheming standpoint I think the guy is pretty dead on, the rest of the emotional ink I could go without. Mett isn't being put in positions to succeed. We HAVE to get that extra defender out of the box. Passing game/ rushing game is directly relational. You have to exploit the numbers when they are in your favor. I'd love to see these guys go up tempo and keep the defense from making substitutions when we've got favorable matchups. Work the intermediate passing game over the middle and then get up to teh line and stretch run. I think the execution problems are the byproduct of perhaps too much thought.
As far as the winning numbers you all have thrown back -- Les is a great recruiter, no argument there, but let's be honest we are winning those games on Defense and Special Teams.
As far as the winning numbers you all have thrown back -- Les is a great recruiter, no argument there, but let's be honest we are winning those games on Defense and Special Teams.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:16 pm to mmcgrath
And we can go back and forth all day, but you have the talent to be more explosive on offense. The defensive philosophy is null and void when the offense cannot keep the defense off the field bc they can't manage first downs. The reason they cannot get first downs is because there are more defenders in the box than the offense can block. Use your DVR, pause it and count. It is physically impossible. And that is 100% coaching. Happened vs Auburn, Fla and I guarantee you SC will do it too. They will lose again unLES they change their philosophy. I hope Im wrong
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:19 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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OK well you were dumb enough to walk into this one.
Brown and Stoops are actually both over 5 Million.
Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is bringing in a cool 3.8 million along with Mark Richt at UGA. I am sure both of those guys would have loved to have been beaten in the national championship game last year.
Gene Chizik, Gary Patterson and Brian Kelly all make well over 3 million and I am sure would have loved to have lost in the big game.
Urban Meyer makes 4 million a year and is currently on probation and can't even compete in the post season.
And finally Jim Grobe at Wake Forest, Charlie Weis at Kansas, and June Jones at SMU all make well over 2 million to compete for mediocrity and a bowl berth AT BEST.
So maybe you would prefer to bring in a coach for 2 million and go 6-6 and 7-5 every year instead of competing for a championship.
Ummmm a lot of those guys have been successful, and none of them are playing for second place to my knowledge.
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:22 pm to mmcgrath
Not sure if you are backing up my post or trying to tell me that I am wrong?
This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/9/12 at 1:25 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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(---), that was my point. He asked me to name coaches who were paid a lot that would love to finish in second place. I am sure last year each and every single one of those coaches would have loved to have been in our shoes playing for a national championship. (---)
Exactly. None of those coaches would love to finish in second place. Are you trying to say that Les loved just being in the game?
(edit: clearly you didn't want to leave it that way, so I pulled out the rough stuff.
)This post was edited on 10/9/12 at 1:31 pm
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