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re: Valentine Dismissal is in-line with LSU's culture change

Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:17 pm to
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but he clearly played favorites maybe part of the culture change is that all players held accountable.


I remember when Jennings was going to start in 2015 because Les plays favorites. Dude never saw the field again.

You guys seriously have no record of "playing favorites"

Every freaking year we have true freshmen starting.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 9:23 pm to
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I think everyone seems to be forgetting that Orgeron was a driving force behind Valentine being back on the roster here at all. Orgeron is now just cleaning up a mess he helped create.


So he's not too stubborn to know when he needs to cut bait and change the game plan so to speak?

Sounds great!
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:35 pm to
Was Valentine in Orgeron's "dog house"?

I read that a lot about Rantard favorites that Miles didn't play. Is (was) this the case with Valentine?

Another question: If Valentine was so bad why did Orgeron wait so long to drop him? Maybe he was one of those "pets" we read about during Miles' tenure.

You baws need to find some consistency here.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 12:46 am to
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Sounds great!


Miles give perriloux and Mathieu the boot cost us big time. 2008-09 would've been completely different. And 2012 should've been a championship team.

I'm not saying TV should be on the team...but most of the time it does not work out for the better.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13434 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 1:12 am to
Hear hear
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16823 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 3:46 am to
Let's be fair.

If ever a coach needed to be fired, it was Les Miles. But Les never hesitated to dismiss players.

And if O is such a disciplinarian, he'll put a stop to this mouthing off, constant-trash-talking, even when we're losing, "wild-boyz" culture that's seemed to permeate LSU's on-field play since he took over.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26636 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 6:40 am to
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Please don't tell me we have a guy up in here about to argue that Jordan Jefferson was a humble hard worker that exhibited great composure under pressure and made great decisions.


Where was he lazy and arrogant like you said? All you did is spew bullshite in the first place, and now you're changing it up.
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