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Valentine Dismissal is in-line with LSU's culture change
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:38 am
I was one of Coach O's biggest critics but, you can't help to notice the momentum shifting with this program.
Valentine was cut because his piss poor attitude and lack of effort was counterproductive to the culture change going on.
I like that. You can easily find and replace a talent like Valentine with players who are buying into the program's culture and giving it everything they have to better the school and themselves.
If they aren't, then cut the dead weight!
Hopefully CEO keeps this momentum going into NSD and Spring Ball.
Hold that tiger!
Valentine was cut because his piss poor attitude and lack of effort was counterproductive to the culture change going on.
I like that. You can easily find and replace a talent like Valentine with players who are buying into the program's culture and giving it everything they have to better the school and themselves.
If they aren't, then cut the dead weight!
Hopefully CEO keeps this momentum going into NSD and Spring Ball.
Hold that tiger!
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:40 am to OKtiger
Meh. Miles had him benched and probably would have dismissed him as well. (Not to discredit anything O is trying to build here)
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:40 am to OKtiger
How is this a change in culture? Miles wasn't afraid to dismiss players.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:41 am to OKtiger
oh look, negative posts to derail a positive outlook.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:42 am to OKtiger
Despite his physical attributes, you are right, OP. He is easily replaced.
What's more difficult to replace is leadership, positivity, and drive to succeed. That's what we need to find more of for this team.
What's more difficult to replace is leadership, positivity, and drive to succeed. That's what we need to find more of for this team.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:42 am to UpToPar
I think everyone seems to be forgetting that Orgeron was a driving force behind Valentine being back on the roster here at all. Orgeron is now just cleaning up a mess he helped create.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:43 am to UpToPar
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How is this a change in culture? Miles wasn't afraid to dismiss players.
You need to improve your reading comprehension skills.
In no way did I imply that kicking a kid off the team is some new change that CEO implemented.
Kick rocks
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:44 am to pellietigersaint
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oh look, negative posts to derail a positive outlook.
What? How about you discuss the content of the post instead of dismissing it because it isn't sunny bullshite?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:45 am to OKtiger
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In no way did I imply that kicking a kid off the team is some new change that CEO implemented.
You're saying it's emblematic of a culture change, but it doesn't have anything to do with the new coach? I'm so confused as to what point you're trying to make
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:47 am to ProjectP2294
quote:Nothing wrong with 2nd chances and trying to help a kid out imo. Dude just wouldn't accept the love.
I think everyone seems to be forgetting that Orgeron was a driving force behind Valentine being back on the roster here at all. Orgeron is now just cleaning up a mess he helped create.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:47 am to OKtiger
I thought this was going to happen eventually, but Valentine's Day came early.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:48 am to The Mick
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Nothing wrong with 2nd chances and trying to help a kid out imo. Dude just wouldn't accept the love.
I agree, but fixing your own frickups shouldn't be lauded as some grand gesture.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:51 am to ProjectP2294
I don't see it originally as a frickup but it's semantics really. I agree with you generally.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:52 am to lsu2006
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ou're saying it's emblematic of a culture change, but it doesn't have anything to do with the new coach?
CEO wanted him off because he was obviously a slouch and a cancer in the locker room, which completely went against how he envisions his team's attitude and demeanor heading into the future.
Miles has always stuck with his "guys." I cannot say for sure he would kick off Valentine for being lazy and having a bad attitude.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:53 am to OKtiger
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I cannot say for sure he would kick off Valentine for being lazy and having a bad attitude.
You can only not say that for sure if you ignore that he had already done that exact thing.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:54 am to ProjectP2294
Seems Valentine played during the first four games (under Miles)....didn't see the field during last 8 games (under Orgeron) Who wanted him on the team?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:55 am to OKtiger
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Miles has always stuck with his "guys." I
Do you always just make stuff up?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:56 am to OKtiger
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Miles has always stuck with his "guys." I cannot say for sure he would kick off Valentine for being lazy and having a bad attitude.
Uh....Miles kicked him off already
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:58 am to Superbonics
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Seems Valentine played during the first four games (under Miles)....didn't see the field during last 8 games (under Orgeron) Who wanted him on the team?
Valentine played in the first 4 games under DL coach Orgeron, but not in the last 8 under DL coach Jenkins. Who didn't want him on the team?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:08 pm to ProjectP2294
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Valentine played in the first 4 games under DL coach Orgeron, but not in the last 8 under DL coach Jenkins. Who didn't want him on the team?
I'm not going to sit here an say that Miles wouldn't have kicked him off (obviously he did once already like you guys alluded too) but the final decision to play or not play a player lies with the head coach. If you think O wanted him playing games 1-4 what changed in game 5? If O was making that call prior to becoming CEO then we was definitely making it after.
I get you're trying to create a pissing match here but come on. If you really want to get one started lets discuss why Les never dismissed JJ for displaying the same lazy and arrogant traits that Valentine showed. Now that sir is a long stream of piss.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:10 pm
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