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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:10 pm to LSU316
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Les never dismissed JJ for displaying the same lazy and arrogant traits that Valentine showed.
Wait... what?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:12 pm to Gray Tiger
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I'm curious. How does the dismissal of Valentine signal a shift in culture change.
From what to what?
I've already explained it
Les Miles in the 2015 to 2016 season had a losing culture. Everything sucked about his program
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:13 pm to lsu2006
Please don't tell me we have a guy up in here about to argue that Jordan Jefferson was a humble hard worker that exhibited great composure under pressure and made great decisions.
Good LORD please tell me this won't happen.
Good LORD please tell me this won't happen.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:14 pm to ProjectP2294
Orgeron is who had him dismissed the first time. Didn't want to waste his time with a kid who didn't put out the effort. Miles was in love with Valentine's potential.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:15 pm to LSU316
I never said anything about him being good under composure or making smart decisions on the field (or, in 1 or 2 instances, off the field) but I've literally never heard or read anything about JJ not working hard or about him being lazy. Maybe you can point me in the right direction
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:17 pm to Superbonics
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Orgeron is who had him dismissed the first time. Didn't want to waste his time with a kid who didn't put out the effort. Miles was in love with Valentine's potential.
Now this is new and interesting.
What do you have to back this up?
Thank you
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:17 pm to lsu2006
His demeanor and results are all I have to go by.
It's pretty much all we have to go by with Valentine as well....I guess his weight too
It's pretty much all we have to go by with Valentine as well....I guess his weight too
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:18 pm to Superbonics
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Orgeron is who had him dismissed the first time. Didn't want to waste his time with a kid who didn't put out the effort. Miles was in love with Valentine's potential.
Now proof of this....well that just blows this thread right up if it exists.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:18 pm to LSU316
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His demeanor and results are all I have to go by.
So you have nothing. Cool.
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It's pretty much all we have to go by with Valentine as well....I guess his weight too
And there's the whole not giving enough of a frick to go to class and remain eligible, mouthing off to coaches, getting kicked off and getting a second chance and fricking that up too thing. But yeah.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:19 pm to Superbonics
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Former LSU head coach Les Miles originally dismissed Valentine in the summer of 2015 for academic and behavioral issues, and Orgeron recommended that decision at the time as he was tired wasting time with Valentine that could have been spent with players in better shape with better work habits and attitudes. But Miles gave him a second chance
Well well well baws.
That's about all I need to see on it.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:20 pm to lsu2006
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there's the whole not giving enough of a frick to go to class
Attendance records?
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mouthing off to coaches
Audio?
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getting kicked off and getting a second chance and fricking that up too thing
Thanks Les.
ETA Like I said all we have are the optics cause I doubt you can provide any of the above.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:20 pm to LSU316
Ryan Perriloux
Tyrann Mathieau
/endthread
Tyrann Mathieau
/endthread
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:21 pm to OKtiger
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You need to improve your reading comprehension skills.
In no way did I imply that kicking a kid off the team is some new change that CEO implemented.
You said that the culture has changed and implied that Valentine being dismissed from the team is evidence of that change, but okay.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:21 pm to LSU316
Ok good talk
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:22 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:22 pm to LSU316
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Like I said all we have are the optics cause I doubt you can provide any of the above.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:24 pm to lsu2006
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What? How about you discuss the content of the post instead of dismissing it because it isn't sunny bullshite?
nope
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:25 pm to lsu2006
Even if everything that you say is true....which I'm still highly doubtful of.
Then we have to assume that Miles let a guy back on the team that cheated in class, cussed him (and other coaches potentially) out (this is the one I doubt....I can't make the leap to Miles being that much of a puddin pop...an idiot yes...pussy no), didn't work out, etc. Keep in mind that this guy's DL coach recommended that Miles get rid of the MF'er the 1st time due to laziness.
Then we have to assume that Miles let a guy back on the team that cheated in class, cussed him (and other coaches potentially) out (this is the one I doubt....I can't make the leap to Miles being that much of a puddin pop...an idiot yes...pussy no), didn't work out, etc. Keep in mind that this guy's DL coach recommended that Miles get rid of the MF'er the 1st time due to laziness.
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