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re: Toliver's comments on Mett

Posted on 2/24/11 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10110 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Call me crazy
Look crazy mofo, you said:
"JJ also turned down private individual instructions "
and I wanted a link, not your opinion of JJ at QB camp.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Toliver's comments on Mett



quote:


Call me crazy


Look crazy mofo, you said:
"JJ also turned down private individual instructions "
and I wanted a link, not your opinion of JJ at QB camp.


Sorry, let me go call Randy Rosetta and get him on this one so he can get Jordan on tape saying, "Yeah, y'know, bro, I'm just aging like wine, dude. Who needs additional work when you're already working wit what I got?"

Because LSU & Jordan would be really, really quick to talk about how he declined some drilling and outside work on his craft. It'd be in all the papers. They'd be issuing releases straight from SID & posting it on the @lsufball Twitter & Posterous accounts.

That's how everything like that gets taken care of. I just don't have a link for you because I'm lazy.

Oh well, guess I'm just spitballing.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 11:22 am to
quote:

TT said LSU would be stupid of they didn't start Mett next season


I can hear this coming from a former player... the rest I don't know.

I'm sure TT was impressed given what's been throwing to him for the last 3 years.

So, I'll buy that it was said but it only proves Mett > JJ/JL, big news.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 11:30 am to
quote:


The sad realization of Miles "loyalty" problem/strength is that we don't know who'll win it here.

When none of us have any real doubt.


Nothing like posting personal conjecture as fact, huh.

And you even cover yourself if your conjecture bombs out by blaming it on the Miles loyalty to a 2 year starter who QB'ed LSU to a Top 8 finish.

Nicely played...you must be in politics.



Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 11:33 am to
quote:

...by blaming it on the Miles loyalty to a 2 year starter who QB'ed LSU to a Top 8 finish.


You nailed it, bro. JJ willed us to victories against Tennessee & Florida. Dude was flat-out-MONEY in the clutch in those games. He obviously was the catalyst behind both of those crucial victories.

I could go on, but you've done far too well for me to try to stand in your way.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10110 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 11:44 am to
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I just don't have a link for you because I'm lazy.

Not trying to be a pia, but I searched to no avail.
This is 2nd time I've heard this "declining private party help" rumor.
You're saying it came from Rosetta or just using him as an example in a retort?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

I said Jordan did not impress at the Manning Camp.


not what i heard.


and by the way....you're not as funny as you think you are
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

JJ willed us to victories against Tennessee


Well, his 80 yd TD run was helpful, I thought. And I don't think you account for 33 TDs in your career while playing in the SEC without having some talent, but I'm sure whatever abilities JJ might have they pale in comparison to what Mett has displayed in his college football career.

quote:

I could go on


That's ok...I think I get the drift of your agenda.

Posted by DFWLSUTX
Dallas
Member since Jan 2011
1697 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:29 pm to
Could the manning camp have effected JJs performance....If you look at his stats and form from 09 to 10...quite a difference
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:31 pm to
Translation: I made the whole thing up.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

And I don't think you account for 33 TDs in your career while playing in the SEC without having some talent,


Wait, you're talking about him "piloting" us to a Top 8 Finish in 2010. But you're bolstering your argument by using his career statistics?

You're confused, chief. You may want to sit down for awhile, take the next few plays off, champ.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

JJ didn't impress at the Manning camp, either.

JJ also turned down private individual instructions with a QB Coach in the offseason prior to 2010.


uhhh...no.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

If you look at his stats and form from 09 to 10...quite a difference


He averaged about 23 attempts per in 09
Dropped to 16 per game last season

theres your difference
This post was edited on 2/24/11 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10110 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Could the manning camp have effected JJs performance
I wondered that or Crowton. Quite odd for QB to get worse with experience.
Changing his release, etc maybe affects accuracy or he's just not comfortable with something.
Hopefully it will work itself out between now and Sept, no matter who wins the battle fo QB.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

That's ok...I think I get the drift of your agenda.


Tell me what my drift is, Miss Cleo? Since you're reading minds and palms around here like you're Sister Tima in a singlewide on the outskirts of Bunkie.

I want what gives us the best chance at winning, period. That's my agenda.

That agenda does not jibe with loyalty. Not in the SEC. You do not play loyalty games. You play the best person whose going to go out there and get the job done.

PERIOD.

If that means sitting guys down, then sit their @sses down. Doesn't mean I don't suddenly forget Ciron Black's career. Doesn't mean I discount Hitt's steady play in 2007.

It means I love LSU & I want to see them win.

Play the best. PERIOD.

I don't think Jordan's been the best for some time. Sorry, we can agree to disagree. Sorry further still that the information I have isn't sourced with an MA-style-compliant Bibliography Source page, bro.

I'll try to do better next time.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10110 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

theres your difference
Doesn't account for comp%, ypc, TD/Int ratio, unless a QB rythm excuse is used.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15605 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Hopefully it will work itself out between now and Sept, no matter who wins the battle fo QB.


And hopefully our so called "fans" (drooling morons) will stop making up bullshite and starting bullshite rumors about our players between now and then.

Here's to Mett and JJ.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28739 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

JJ didn't impress at the Manning camp, either.


my best friend plays arena ball and he was a receiver at this camp.He says JJ was one of the best qbs at the camp. A scout told him that if he put up such and such stats that he should consider entering the draft. Obviously he didn't put up those stats or even show the talent to be an nfl QB this season, but your statement about him not looking good at the camp is false.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:58 pm to
All I ask is for Les to play the best man for the position. I just want Lsu to win! I for one don't think he has done this sometimes in the past.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 2/24/11 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Doesn't account for comp%, ypc, TD/Int ratio, unless a QB rythm excuse is used.


his completion percentage only dropped 5%, not really big difference at all in the grand scheme.

INT, I think he was just forcing a lot and was feeling the pressure of potentially getting benched for Lee.

I do think hes a rythm QB, just not a guy who can throw sporadically throughout a game and light up a stat sheet.

Not making excuses for him, I dont think hes great by any stretch; just a feeble attempt at being objective.

This post was edited on 2/24/11 at 1:02 pm
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