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re: Tim Williams on playing LSU
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
In O's defense, at Ole Miss, Cutcliffe was not a very good recruiter. He ( Cutcliffe) was brought in to shepherd Eli Manning and get him ready for a pro career. Orgeron inherited a pretty bare cupboard when he got to Ole Miss
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Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:32 am to sicboy
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I'm not an either/or guy. A lot of factors went into our offensive rebirth when Les left. It wasn't all Orgeron. But I'm not going to knock him for struggling against one of the best college programs of all time in his 4th game. Plus, you also had Esminger trying to gameplan in his 4th game as OC.
He ran the same gameplan everyone knew wouldn't work while not using anything from the previous games.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:32 am to SabiDojo
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maybe because every time we threw the ball it was out of 7-step dropbacks.
Etling was doomed to fail because of this. I kept screaming for them to come up with quicker routes, shorter drop backs.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:32 am to Rickdaddy4188
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The fact that posters want to give O credit for arkansad,missourri and ole miss and yet give him zero blame for bama and Florida is amazing.
You can bet if LSU has a great year next year, no one will be saying its with the old staffs players, but if LSU disappoints..... Well I think you get the point.
I hope O does well, but he went 6-2 last year in a down SEC year, scoring all of 10 points at HOME against Bama and a 2 touchdown dog in Florida, but took very little blame for this. IF the old group had done that.....
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:34 am to sicboy
We always had plays that took forever to develop.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:35 am to LosTigres25
I don't any reasonable person would say Orgeron bears no blame in how Alabama and Florida turned out. But for those saying the offense heavy games shouldn't automatically make Orgeron the savior should also apply that logic to the two losses. That staff was hodge podge and whatever we got last year was gravy.
He's had a full off-season, has his staff, will have a full spring and fall camp, let's see what he can do now.
He's had a full off-season, has his staff, will have a full spring and fall camp, let's see what he can do now.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:37 am to sicboy
Alabama game plan was shite, but I don't put the Florida loss on him. We should have won that game but individual play fricked it up.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:37 am to LosTigres25
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You can bet if LSU has a great year next year, no one will be saying its with the old staffs players, but if LSU disappoints..... Well I think you get the point.
We already have posters saying we shouldnt expect 10 wins next year because Miles left little talent.
These are the same posters that don't give miles credit for his 1st 3 years because its Saban's recruits and in the same breath tout O's interim tenures.
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I hope does well, but he went 6-2 last year in a down SEC year, scoring all of 10 points at HOME against Bama and a 2 touchdown dog in Florida, but took very little blame for this. IF the old group had done that.....
Exactly. Now that Mikes is gone its no longer the coaches fault when offensive players look lost on critical plays.
Its no longer a big deal when we lose to 14 point underdogs at home while they were missing tons of defensive starters.
Its clear the goal posts have been moved.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:38 am to SabiDojo
Miles philosophy was always "do it the LSU way", which equated to we'll do what we always do, it's their job to stop us. Well, the rest of college football figured out that formula a long time ago and Miles was unwilling to adapt.
Again, that was a poor gameplan last year and there is plenty of blame to go around. New season, new staff, I'm excited and eager to see what they can do.
Again, that was a poor gameplan last year and there is plenty of blame to go around. New season, new staff, I'm excited and eager to see what they can do.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:39 am to 1999
I'm pretty sure this thread will turn into a 35 page rickdaddy and RTR shite show
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, didn't realize Rick was here already.. should have known
ETA -
, didn't realize Rick was here already.. should have knownThis post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:39 am to Mr. Hangover
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I'm pretty sure this thread will turn into a 35 page icalllesdaddy and RTR shite show
fixed
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:40 am to SabiDojo
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Alabama game plan was shite, but I don't put the Florida loss on him. We should have won that game but individual play fricked it up.
Its the head coach's job to have his players focused. Using the logic youre using the head coach is never at fault. The head coach isnt missing blocks that blows plays up.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
Yep. You're 100% right.. now shut this shite down and move on to the next thread where y'all can suck off or shite on CLM
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:41 am to Rickdaddy4188
That Florida game was no win. Will Alleva running his mouth and all of the shite we threw at them, they obviously came in playing a lot harder. Turnovers didn't help at all, either.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:42 am to 1999
If LSU would have thrown it we would have been blown out of the stadium.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Using the logic youre using the head coach is never at fault
Um, no. By YOUR logic, you're assuming the head coach's ONLY job is to have his players focused. Furthermore, by YOUR logic, you're assuming that only lack of focus can cause an individual player to contribute to losing a game.
There are OTHER ways a head coach can be at fault, such as game planning, poor recruiting, etc.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:43 am to sicboy
I'm sorry that facts about 2005-2015 upset you bruh. I've never seen a fan base more willing to shite on its on accomplishments because of a coach. It's pathetic.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:45 am to KiwiHead
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In O's defense, at Ole Miss, Cutcliffe was not a very good recruiter. He ( Cutcliffe) was brought in to shepherd Eli Manning and get him ready for a pro career. Orgeron inherited a pretty bare cupboard when he got to Ole M
Derek mason at vandy won as many sec games in 2016 as Ed Orgeron did in his entire tenure at ole miss.
No excuse for that.
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:45 am to Rickdaddy4188
Dude, at this point it's not even about right or wrong.. you (and a few others) have went back and forth about CLM for thousands of posts now.. is it not getting old to you yet? At what point will you just say, "damn, this has gone on long enough, maybe I should just let it go"?
Right or wrong, you're not going to change anyone's mind, so give it up.. it's not a good look for you (or anyone else)
ETA - it's actually kind of sad that I KNEW you'd be in here as soon as I read the OP, and sure enough, for the last few pages, here you are
Right or wrong, you're not going to change anyone's mind, so give it up.. it's not a good look for you (or anyone else)
ETA - it's actually kind of sad that I KNEW you'd be in here as soon as I read the OP, and sure enough, for the last few pages, here you are
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/9/17 at 11:46 am to KiwiHead
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In O's defense, at Ole Miss, Cutcliffe was not a very good recruiter. He ( Cutcliffe) was brought in to shepherd Eli Manning and get him ready for a pro career. Orgeron inherited a pretty bare cupboard when he got to Ole Miss
Here come the White Knights to tell us how O's complete and utter failure at Ole Miss wasn't his fault.
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