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re: Thoughts on Les from an old newspaper friend
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unfortunately you people make the mistake of taking negative posts on a social media site and thinking it represents the entire fan base. It doesn't.
So just because it's on a message board then it is acceptable to trash the team and their accomplishments because people don't like the coach?
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:17 pm to BeeFense5
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So just because it's on a message board then it is acceptable to trash the team and their accomplishments because people don't like the coach?
What??
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What??
I'm just trying to follow your logic
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's no different than any other.
bullshite. Most fan bases dont shite on the most successful decade in their program's history just because they disagree with the coach. That doesnt happen
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:22 pm to BeeFense5
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What??
I'm just trying to follow your logic
You made no sense.
This board is different than most fan boards which is why it's called "The Rant." You're going to get varying opinions and that is by design. Most fan boards are strict about
If you don't want varying opinions, reading this board probably isn't in your best interest.
Texas fans, Ohio State Fans, Michigan fans, Miami fans all have turned on coaches who won championships. This group isn't any different.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:24 pm to JaxTiger10
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bullshite. Most fan bases dont shite on the most successful decade in their program's history just because they disagree with the coach. That doesnt happen
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Texas fans, Ohio State Fans, Michigan fans, Miami fans all have turned on coaches who won championships. This group isn't any different.
Texas turned on a coach that was barely making a bowl game. Ohio state DID NOT turn on Jim Tressel. Miami's coaches left and Coker struggled to make a bowl game and had a ton of arrests. Michigan coach struggled to make bowl games . None of that comes close to Miles.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Why is that funny? You act like it isnt true.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:32 pm to JaxTiger10
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Texas turned on a coach that was barely making a bowl game. Ohio state DID NOT turn on Jim Tressel. Miami's coaches left and Coker struggled to make a bowl game and had a ton of arrests. Michigan coach struggled to make bowl games .
John Cooper, not Tressel. Carr went to a bowl game every year. His worst season was 7-5. Coopers worst season was 6 losses. Cokers last three years were 9-3, 9-3 and 7-6.
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None of that comes close to Miles.
You're too biased to see clearly. What you're seeing is the result of a successful program and a fan base with high expectations.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 4:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Give it up. You've got 'em slobbering all over themselves now. It's fixing to go nuclear.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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John Cooper, not Tressel. Carr went to a bowl game every year. His worst season was 7-5. Coopers worst season was 6 losses. Cokers last three years were 9-3, 9-3 and 7-6.
And ohio state shouldnt have fired cooper. They did because he was 2-10 against michigan.
Coker was fired because he had lost control of the program. .players were getting arrested left and right.
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You're too biased to see clearly.
Except im not biased at all. If any other coach had done what Miles has done at lsu, i would state the FACTS the same. Its not bias when i say lsu had 4 straight seasons of top 15 finishes before this year.its not bias saying miles' tenure at lsu is the most successful era in lsu history. Its reality.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:42 pm to JaxTiger10
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Except im not biased at all. If any other coach had done what Miles has done at lsu, i would state the FACTS the same. Its not bias when i say lsu had 4 straight seasons of top 15 finishes before this year.its not bias saying miles' tenure at lsu is the most successful era in lsu history. Its reality.
Right. I pointed out several high profile, successful coaches who won titles and had a low approval rating among their fans at the end yet you dismiss it as "different." It's not.
LSU fan base is like any other. I can guarantee you that if Nick Saban goes 10-3 next year and 8-5 the following, his support among Bama fans will waver.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:51 pm to RB10
Just imagine what Les could do on GameDay if he actually put as much effort into GameDay coaching that he does with talking in circles.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:02 pm to Dirty Don
All big time football coaches are paranoid basket cases. They don't want to say or do anything that might give the opponent an edge of any kind. That includes releasing information to help opponents prepare against them. Different coaches do it in different ways. Saban just snarls and the cowardly press falls into line. Miles talks in circles. Some just don't say anything of any substance. The game is the same for all of them. Play the cards close to the vest and mislead whenever possible.
If you can't understand and/or appreciate this, the fault is yours.
If you can't understand and/or appreciate this, the fault is yours.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Right. I pointed out several high profile, successful coaches who won titles and had a low approval rating among their fans at the end yet you dismiss it as "different." It's not.
No you pointed out cooper who was 2-10 against Michigan and was not the most successful coach in OSU history. You pointed out Coker who struggled to make a bowl game his last season and was fired because of off the field arrests on His team and wasnt the most successful coach at miami.
None of the coaches you mentioned gave the school its most successful era.
What is happening with Miles would be like Michigan fans hating Bo, or ohio state fans hating woody hayes. Miami fans hating schnellenberger or jimmy johnson.
None of the coaches you brought up were the most successful coaches at those schools.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I can guarantee you that if Nick Saban goes 10-3 next year and 8-5 the following, his support among Bama fans will waver.
bullshite. This didnt just start this year.some lsu fans wanted miles fired on 1/9/12.
Nick saban isnt the most successful coach Bama has ever had.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:13 pm to JaxTiger10
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No you pointed out cooper who was 2-10 against Michigan and was not the most successful coach in OSU history. You pointed out Coker who struggled to make a bowl game his last season and was fired because of off the field arrests on His team and wasnt the most successful coach at miami.
None of the coaches you mentioned gave the school its most successful era.
What is happening with Miles would be like Michigan fans hating Bo, or ohio state fans hating woody hayes. Miami fans hating schnellenberger or jimmy johnson.
None of the coaches you brought up were the most successful coaches at those schools.
Gotcha. So great success doesn't matter, it has to mirror exactly what Les has done?
You seem dead set and I am not going to change your mind. This fan base is pretty awesome, don't let a few eggheads make you so angry. When you judge the majority by the actions of a few, it can skew your perspective.
The passion that makes this fan base great also creates some pretty heavy duty expectations. I know some of you are hung up on Les because of the national championship but everything changes, ask Lloyd Carr.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You're banging your head against the wall trying to be reasonable. They don't realize they're just as bad and hardheaded as the miles-needs-to-go-at-any-cost crowd.
I think miles is more responsible for the greatest period of LSU football than saban or dinardo's opening of the recruiting door. He's kept the program going for a decade at a high level.
That being said, he still makes boneheaded moves just like any coach and isn't above reproach. These guys attack everyone that voices displeasure at something miles does. They don't realize they're the mirror image of Peej.
I think miles is more responsible for the greatest period of LSU football than saban or dinardo's opening of the recruiting door. He's kept the program going for a decade at a high level.
That being said, he still makes boneheaded moves just like any coach and isn't above reproach. These guys attack everyone that voices displeasure at something miles does. They don't realize they're the mirror image of Peej.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:52 pm to zsav77
I like Miles and hope he has great success, but yeah...he can be aggravating at times. Hope he has another NC under his belt before he retires though.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I also really like Miles. I know a lot of people, especially in my family, that want him gone. I have made the analogy with this and Dale Brown about being careful what you wish for. What did running Dale out of town do for the basketball program? Les may not be the greatest in many areas but I believe he may be better than many other choices out there. That being said, yes the 2012 championship game rubs me raw every time I think about it. So I mention it. Sorry, many programs don't get unlimited opportunity to get there much less win. The whole Alabama being there in the first place was bad in general for an otherwise perfect season.
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