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Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:18 pm to Chicken
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I would bet more fans have concerns about our team than those that don't have concerns...
What is there to be concerned about? All fans have to do is sit back and watch what happens.
With all the great young talent in the program, it is only a matter of time before we start dominating again.
The QB spot is the only thing holding us back on offense and our players need some time to maximize our new defensive schemes.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:21 pm to TigerinCharlotte
quote:So, so not true. I have encountered numerous fan bases across many sports that are actually able to discuss positive aspects of their team. In fact, this board is one of the very remarkably few places I have found where "fans" of a team (or anything else) gather and the discussion is so overwhelmingly negative about that team.
Welcome to sports. It's always going to be that way with a large majority of fans. Part of the game brotha!
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:27 pm to TigerinCharlotte
quote:When was the last time he won over 10 games in a season, or a National Championship?
There are plenty of people in Tallahassee that want Bobby Bowden OUT!
quote:Not sure about the "livign" part, but "legend" definitely applies, as in past history. In the time Miles has been at LSU, Bobby has been nowhere near as successful as Les has.
We're talking about a living legend too
We're talking about coaches getting criticized as much as Miles is while being as successful as Miles. Someone like Tressel or Stoops or Carroll when they are 3-0 and in the top 10. How many of them get this kind of bitching while winning?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:28 pm to TigerinCharlotte
quote:Yeah, but that's the point: that's after he's lost a few games. Miles is getting this treatment before losing a single game.
Let Urban Meyer lose a few games, and see what the fan base in Gainesville does
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:31 pm to TigerPimpNationTrank
quote:Noboby tried to run Paterno out after last year. They were trying to run him out back when he was losing.
They tried to run out Paterno the past 5 years.
quote:
They want Bowden gone.
They sent Coker packing.
They will be sending Spurrier out soon enough.
They sent Fulmer packing the year after an SEC Championship game appearance.
Again, all AFTER they were losing. We're 3-0 and in the top 10. What coach averaging 10+ wins a season with a National Championship has gotten this kind of grief WHILE being 3-0 and in the top 10?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:35 pm to supatigah
quote:Very, very true. Just see the post count of some people following a game where we "struggle" compared to after games where we dominate, and note the tone of the posts after each type of game. That will tell you all you need to know about those kinds of people.
These fans would rather see LSU struggle and/or lose so they can run around saying "see I told you so."
They cannot accept the reality that there are times when "rah-rah" type posts are the only rationally appropriate commentary on a team. They are capable of only bashing and bitching, whether we just "struggled" against Washington or just dominated top 10 Va. Tech.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:39 pm to Tigerdew
quote:That's not really true. He has won two SEC Championships and had a consistently very good team for a long time. I agree he doesn't belong ahead of Miles, but I can see him in the top 3 or 4 after Urban and Miles, and maybe Saban? Richt's big problem is that he got his one great season shot at just the wrong time (2002) and didn't get a chance at the National Title. In that respect, I think he is much like Tuberville, only much more consistent. Both would easily be in the top-level coaching ranks of the SEC if they had gotten the breaks in their best years that Saban, Miles, Urban and Spurrier got in theirs.
Why does he always get thrown up as a top 3-4 coach in the SEC, often times ahead of Miles? He hasn't done shite @ UGA
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:46 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
quote:The problem is that they seem to invade any thread that isn't a negative/bashing/bitching thread and inundate it with such posts until it becomes one. If you try and start a thread about how well the defense played against Vandy, you get a bunch of "WE GAVE UP A BILLION YARDS TO AN 0-12 WASHINGTON TEAM!WE SUCK!" responses.
I guess I just don't click on a lot of the negative threads because most of the people are just ranting/venting.
It's bad enough they feel the need to have their own bitch&whine-fests when we are 3-0; the shitty thing is they can't let rational people (or even the irrationally positive) have our own non-bitch&whine-fest conversations.
Multiplayer online games have a perfect term for these types of people. They're called "griefers." They are people for whom the game is secondary, and their primary source of enjoyment is disrupting other people's enjoyment of the game. They don't care about winning or progressing or achieving anything in the game. Their goal is to be able to make some random anonymous stranger in front of a computer somewhere get pissed off and ruin their day of gaming.
That's what many of the "negatigers" here seem to be; griefers. They are far more interested in seeing random anonymous people in front of a copmuter somewhere get pissed off and have a bad day than they are with how LSU is actually doing, or having any kind of actual conversation.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:49 pm to King Joey
quote:I call them "flamers"...I took a few out today...I encourage people to email me if they see someone who is flaming the site, either overtly or covertly.
They are far more interested in seeing random anonymous people in front of a copmuter somewhere get pissed off and have a bad day than they are with how LSU is actually doing, or having any kind of actual conversation.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:52 pm to cyogi
quote:And now many of those people seem incapable of recalling that in addition to being below .500 in SEC play at that point, we were also dead last IN THE COUNTRY in pass defense. In too many people's minds, things like this never actually happened under Saban. Like the comment one of them made to me about how Les deserves bashing where Saban does not because Miles "almost lost to TROY!", as if the poster were completely unaware of Saban's post-National Championship team coming 2:18 seconds from losing to Troy in '04.
And some of the same people wanted Saban fired after the 2001 Ole Miss loss in Baton Rouge
Much of this is the irrational desire to bitch about whatever the current situation is, like people whose exes are always so much better than whoever they are with now (especially the ones that dumped them), because they forget all the warts and annoying habits and remember only the good times. That is very true of many on this board with regards to Saban.
However, it is also true that many here simply don't like Les, period.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:55 pm to ForeLSU
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just talked to Jimbo, he said if JR would've thrown the damn ball to Early when he was supposed to, and where he was supposed to, that would've been an easy touchdown.
Just talk to Jimbo and he confirmed that as a QB coach it was his job to teach him that and he whiffed.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:55 pm to supatigah
quote:"A little knowlege is a dangerous thing; drink deep or taste not . . ."
what bothers me most though is the few that know a little, think they know a lot more than they do
Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:56 pm to nycajun
quote:Pete Caroll is not 3-0!
Pete Carroll is taking a lot of heat this week in LA.
(at Caroll, not you) Posted on 9/22/09 at 3:59 pm to King Joey
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Again, all AFTER they were losing. We're 3-0 and in the top 10. What coach averaging 10+ wins a season with a National Championship has gotten this kind of grief WHILE being 3-0 and in the top 10?
you're really Nuts' brother??
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:02 pm to TriumphTiger
quote:I think it will be a while before any real heat starts up in Georgia (if he keeps doing what he's doing).
I think the base is willing to underachieve a little to keep a guy like him at the helm. I don't think they think of it like that, but he's definitely what most people in Georgia envision their coach to be like (short of a few more wins).
The truth is that Richt is doing pretty much exactly what most championship caliber coaches do. You build and/or maintain a program at a consistently high level, win a bunch of games almost every year for several years, and eventually the breaks might fall your way once or twice and you win a National Championship or two. That's what Stoops has done, though his "breaks" season happened to come very early, as did Tressel's. Saban got lucky early, too, getting his in just 3 or 4 years of top-level seasons. Miles obviously got his pretty quick. Caroll got his fairly early and despite knocking on the door nearly every year just can't quite get over the hump again. Other guys like Bowden and Paterno had to keep it up for many years before they got the right breaks in a season.
If Richt keeps it up at UGA, the odds are that eventually a season will break his way and he'll get his National Title. The only question is whether he can keep it up long enough, and whether the Dawg fans will be patient enough with him to get there.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:09 pm to HOUbengal
quote:Different construction. In "most of the house is dirty", "most" is the subject, and a single subject. Hense, the correct subject verb agreement is "is." In "most people are smart", "people" is the subject and "most" is an adjective describing "people." Since "people" is a plural subject, the correct subject verb agreement is "are."
Most of the house "are" dirty would be correct?
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:12 pm to Rza32
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Because Saban has turned Alabama around, and LSU is a sinking ship.
Well, if you think that the LSU Football Team is a sinking ship, then maybe you need to consider becoming a Tulane or Bama fan.
We beat Washington, who in turn beat USC. Yeah USC was overrated and overranked, but USC still has a lot of talent. LSU is 3-0, and yeah we are ranked #7 in both polls, but the rankings to me don't mean anything until the end of the season when it counts the most.
This post was edited on 9/22/09 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:13 pm to MetArl15
quote:Which ones? Miles has had 5 recruiting classes, and his first 3 were #22, #4 and #7. If you're talking about his '05 class, where he had about a month to recruit and only had roster space to sign about a dozen guys, and still landed a top 25 class, then you should have said, "his early class." Using "classes" suggests there were more than one down class during those early years.
That's a stretch, and certainly not a fact, especially if you look back at Miles's early classes.
Posted on 9/22/09 at 4:14 pm to Tigerdew
quote:
1) 90% are not and probably never will be over the fact that Nick Saban in NOT our fricking coach anymore
Saban popped my cherry and now I'm jilted and I'll never let him go.
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