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this is what pisses me off about the bcs
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:08 pm
Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?
I mean it's fricking stupid to place that much emphasis on being undefeated. How many one loss teams have we seen that were better then the undefeated teams in the NCG.
If tulane goes undefeated, do they deserve to play in the NCG? Some people are pointing this out, but not enough. Thier strength of schedule is a complete joke.
btw, this is almost verbatim what i heard by a caller on the jordy show this morning.
I personally think the media is hyping tcu and boise so hopefully this will bring us closer to a playoff.
Boise/tcu matchup in the title game would be the worst ratings ever. Horrible game.
and it could very well happen if AU, or oregon losses.
Then you have standford etc. If we win out though i think we jump. But it's a big if. We have a fifty fifty shot at arky imo.
I mean it's fricking stupid to place that much emphasis on being undefeated. How many one loss teams have we seen that were better then the undefeated teams in the NCG.
If tulane goes undefeated, do they deserve to play in the NCG? Some people are pointing this out, but not enough. Thier strength of schedule is a complete joke.
btw, this is almost verbatim what i heard by a caller on the jordy show this morning.
I personally think the media is hyping tcu and boise so hopefully this will bring us closer to a playoff.
Boise/tcu matchup in the title game would be the worst ratings ever. Horrible game.
and it could very well happen if AU, or oregon losses.
Then you have standford etc. If we win out though i think we jump. But it's a big if. We have a fifty fifty shot at arky imo.
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Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:29 pm to dreaux
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Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?
Not according to Lou Holtz...That old fricker stated that if there were an SEC 1 loss team, undefeated TCU and undefeated Boise State to choose from...he would put Boise Stae and TCU in the NC...
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:32 pm to dreaux
Judge a team by how they play, not who they play. BCS conference elitism (and money) is what is driving the non-AQ conferences to revolt. You will never be able to say "they don't deserve it" unless and until there is a playoff to prove it. The scoreboard don't lie.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:34 pm to buzz1954LSU
Any Lou knows everything!
I will watch any championship game! I love the game to much.
I will watch any championship game! I love the game to much.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:39 pm to thetigerman
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Judge a team by how they play, not who they play.
And exactly how is "judging a team by how they play" supposed to work, scientifically?
If they beat 12 teams with 0-12 records by 50 points each...does that mean anything?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:41 pm to White Shadeaux
Its like the obscenity rule, you'll know it when you see it.
And how would judging a team by who they play be scientific anyways?
And how would judging a team by who they play be scientific anyways?
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:43 pm to dreaux
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Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?
There have been tons of undefeated teams to NOT play for the title. If anything the BCS KEEPS THEM OUT. Humans have been propping Boise all year long, and the computers may correct them because they objectively account for record and SOS.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:45 pm to lsumatt
And what if it just happens to really be a really good team, with a shite schedule? They play and beat who was on the schedule? Should they be precluded because their opponents turned out sucky, while they were actually a really good team?
Playoffs.
Playoffs.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:46 pm to dreaux
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Just because TCU and BOISE go undefeated, does not mean they should automatically get in the NCG?
They have NEVER got in the championship game and wont this year. Why are you so pissed? The BCS sucks, have a playoff!
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:54 pm to dreaux
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I personally think the media is hyping tcu and boise so hopefully this will bring us closer to a playoff.
boom
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:57 pm to dreaux
BTW, there is only one thing that pisses me off about the BCS. The voters. They begin the season with this ranking matrix in their heads. Most of this is based upon the end of the previous season despite the fact that we are now dealing with different personnel. Teams get moved around within this matrix based upon wins and losses, but the matrix never changes despite the fact that the original placing may have been WAY off to begin with. OK, I'm done.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 2:57 pm to bomber77
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They have NEVER got in the championship game and wont this year. Why are you so pissed? The BCS sucks, have a playoff!
The next thing the BCS will do is make a 4 team playoff. If TCU and Boise are in the top 4 because they don't play anybody I don't see how thy helps.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:06 pm to buzz1954LSU
My biggest problem with TCU and Boise is their schedule. I think they're both quality teams; however, how many teams in the top 25 do you think could go undefeated with that schedule? My guess would be quite a few. It's not our fault their schedule is weak. Its theirs. And until they play tougher teams they should not be considered for a NC in this BCS format.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:22 pm to thetigerman
quote:Anyone that has ever played sports knows... who you play largely determines how you play. Just about any team in the top 20 could look dominant playing the majority of their schedule against teams ranked from 80-120.
Judge a team by how they play, not who they play.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:25 pm to XbengalTiger
I'd be more for undefeated teams if we got rid of preseason polls. Make the bottom feeders do it year after year to prove something. Preaching to the choir here, but I think we need to have every conference have a championship game and the winner goes into a playoff.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:29 pm to lsumatt
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Humans have been propping Boise all year long, and the computers may correct them because they objectively account for record and SOS.
Fail. The human vote in the coaches poll is what is going to keep them out, especially if a one-loss team jumps them. The coaches don't want to see Boise and TCU play in the national championship after sweeping such a shitty schedule.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:40 pm to thetigerman
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You will never be able to say "they don't deserve it" unless and until there is a playoff to prove it. The scoreboard don't lie.
False
No one is saying Boise & TCU can't hang with the big boys. Herbstreit and all the clowns on College Football Live even say in one game on a neutral field either team can hang with anybody.
What is in question is whether they deserve the shot. I'm not sure Boise has played BCS conference teams in back-to-back weeks yet. Compare that to an SEC/Big10 schedule. If the system is a 2 team playoff, could you honestly say Boise deserves to play in the game over any undefeated SEC/Big10/Pac10 school? I didn't think so.
If March Madness was substituted for the BCS and only had 1 game to determine the national champion, would Butler have been anybody's choice? But that's the difference. College Basketball is about the post-season while football is about the regular season.
The BCS is good for college football imo. If Boise or TCU should play in the national championship over an undefeated or 1-loss Auburn or Oregon, it will tell everyone that its ok to play a bullshite schedule. Now you have to earn the right, and its why teams schedule the marquee, cross-country powerhouse matchups. If not, then the cupcakes like Temple or a Florida International would schedule all 1AA opponents because they'll have a shot at the show if the come out of the season unscathed.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:47 pm to dreaux
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I mean it's fricking stupid to place that much emphasis on being undefeated.
Okay, so if a team should not be measured on wins and losses, what should we go for...uniforms? Cheerleaders?
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:48 pm to jm3
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College Basketball is about the post-season while football is about the regular season.
College football also unfortunatly has a great deal of emphasis placed on the preseason as well.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 3:51 pm to dreaux
I guess I should say this again. The reason that TCU and Boise St. are getting real consideration this year is because they're 33-3 and 34-1 respectively over the last three seasons. And in the last 5 years they've beaten teams like Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State, Virginia Tech, and Baylor.
The consideration is reward for consistent winning, with some marquee victories mixed in. If teams like TCU, Boise St. and Utah never beat BCS opponents, they wouldn't be part of the discussion.
The consideration is reward for consistent winning, with some marquee victories mixed in. If teams like TCU, Boise St. and Utah never beat BCS opponents, they wouldn't be part of the discussion.
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