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This compared to Baylor

Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:29 am
Posted by lsutyger23
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
1090 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:29 am
Anyone who is more informed than me on the Baylor situation care to compare the 2? Wasn’t Baylor an absolute cover up by current coaches?
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7342 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:30 am to
It is not even close, stop trying to make this situation that. Also, Baylor situation is not all it was cracked up to be either
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
4764 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:30 am to
Baylor's basketball coach also like let one of his players get murdered a few years before the sexual assault carnival they put on so they have a longer history.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:31 am to
You for real?
Posted by lesgeaux
Member since Jul 2008
3362 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:31 am to
What exactly was the Baylor situation? I never paid attention at the details of it all
Posted by lsutyger23
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
1090 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:32 am to
I literally asked if it was. That’s my point. Doesn’t even seem to be nearly the same.
Posted by Herman
PRAIRIEVILLE, La
Member since Feb 2018
672 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:04 pm to
I am a Baylor alum and an LSU fan and I can tell you the Baylor Murder cover up was way worse than LSU situation and the Art Briles sexual assualt cover up scandal were not as bad as LSU situation. Keep in mind that Baylor is a religious affiliated school so the Godless Media counts wait to crush Baylor. Keep in mind Brile ls has not spoken since the situation. I know for a fact that Briles is a good man and he was the fall guy. I know for a 100% fact.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:14 pm to
Agreed Herman, also a Baylor alum here.

You are spot on in regards to your take.
Posted by nomar
Member since Feb 2018
105 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:24 pm to
Don't forget the Ken Starr angle. Corporate media wanted blood because he was special prosecutor for the Bill Clinton which led to his impeachment trail. Same thing happened to SMU when they got death penalty it had to do with national politics.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10019 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:31 pm to
Married to a Baylor grad. Art isn’t a sexual predator who was tying up girls and letting them get raped.

But if you don’t think he was at fault enough to be terminated, then I hope you don’t make employment decisions anywhere.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

But if you don’t think he was at fault enough to be terminated, then I hope you don’t make employment decisions anywhere.


Yea, it's nuts that people think Briles is just a scapegoat

He brought in multiple players expelled from other programs due to sexual assault/harassments allegations
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Art isn’t a sexual predator who was tying up girls and letting them get raped.



but it occurred on his watch and he apparently was aware of it and let it carry on as long as Baylor was winning football games, no need to rock the boat
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68612 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:40 pm to
Ive read through the drake incidents and it just seems like hes an abusive boyfriend but his gfs were just as crazy or were head over heels for him they just let it continue.

The Les stuff just seems like he was a sexist, wanted to hire good looking girls for recruiting and hit on them.


The problem is the reporting issue. But again one of the main incidents had the parties at the time basically say, oh they threw drinks on each other because drake was making out with another girl. that shite happens with college students everywhere.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93694 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 12:54 pm to
The investigation exposed a football program under Briles that was allowed to operate under its own rules, which led to intimidation of alleged victims, concealment of sexual assault charges and risk for future attacks. Among the law firm’s other findings:

- Football coaches and staff “conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation.”

- In some cases, including reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, athletic department and football officials knowingly did not report sexual violence to an administrator outside the department. Football coaches or staff members “met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct. As a result, no action was taken to support complainants, fairly and impartially evaluate the conduct under Title IX, address identified cultural concerns within the football program, or protect campus safety once aware of a potential pattern of sexual violence by multiple football players.”

- “In some instances, the football program dismissed players for unspecified team violations and assisted them in transferring to other schools.”

- “Football coaches and staff took affirmative steps to maintain internal control over discipline of players and to actively divert cases from the student conduct or criminal processes.” Coaches involved themselves in criminal and disciplinary matters that “reinforced an overall perception that football was above the rules, and that there was no culture of accountability for misconduct.”

- The football program employed a “separate system of internal discipline,” which reinforced the perception that “rules applicable to other students are not applicable to football players.” The separate system protected football players from standard consequences and placed students at the risk future misconduct.

- Baylor did not follow prescribed protocol for accepting transfer students, such as background checks, in adding players to the program. One of those players, defensive end Sam Ukwuachu, was sentenced this fall to 180 days in jail and 10 years’ probation he was convicted of sexually assaulting a former Baylor soccer player in 2013. Ukwuachu left Boise State after facing assault charges.

LINK


Not even in the same stratosphere.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:10 pm to
Baylor had over 30 cases of sexual misconduct including many, many cases of gang rape. The President of the University, the Athletic Director and the head coach ALL resigned on the same day. It was then swept under the rug and hugh payouts were received by the victims. NO COMPARISON.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10019 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

but it occurred on his watch and he apparently was aware of it and let it carry on as long as Baylor was winning football games


I agree. This is why I said he definitely needed to be fired. The “Art is a good man” argument doesn’t protect him from consequences of his program.
Posted by lsutyger23
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
1090 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:12 pm to
That’s how it seemed to me with admittedly limited info on the Baylor situation. Thanks
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I know for a fact that Briles is a good man and he was the fall guy. I know for a 100% fact.


Does "good man" include allowing multiple gang rapes???

I don't think so.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Does "good man" include allowing multiple gang rapes???



Briles is a POS, whoever posted that must be a relative of his
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19063 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Anyone who is more informed than me on the Baylor situation care to compare the 2? Wasn’t Baylor an absolute cover up by current coaches?


So far all I have heard is Verge got 30 days suspension Miriam Seger got 21 days suspension.
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