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re: There were 8 baseball seasons between 2000&09. It's been 7 since 2009.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:29 pm to geauxtigahs87
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:29 pm to geauxtigahs87
Not many teams have more than 1 win in omaha since 09, and none consistently
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:30 pm to josh336
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Not many teams have more than 1 win in omaha since 09, and none consistently
How many of them consider themselves to be the premier team in the sport and set expectations accordingly?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:30 pm to josh336
Im on board with the criticism of no 3rd starter. The premier programs in college baseball have them
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:32 pm to josh336
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Not many teams have more than 1 win in omaha since 09
If we were anyone other than LSU, I would see your point.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:32 pm to ProjectP2294
Probably 5 or 6 programs
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:34 pm to geauxtigahs87
I get where yall are coming from, but the parity in the sport makes it muh harder to do that today and those couple games in june are a small sample size where alot of luck is involved
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:35 pm to ProjectP2294
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How many of them consider themselves to be the premier team in the sport and set expectations accordingly?
This inst the 90s anymore...
Alot of teams have poured a shite ton of money in baseball and try to win now.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:37 pm to josh336
quote:Are you saying it's impossible for a single team to dominate in the present climate?
but the parity in the sport makes it muh harder to do that today and those couple games in june are a small sample size where alot of luck is involved
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:37 pm to lsupride87
That doesn't mean LSU should be losing at home in regionals and supers more than they're winning them.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:40 pm to lsupride87
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Alot of teams have poured a shite ton of money in baseball and try to win now.
That must be Alabama's advantage in football, no one else is making a financial commitment.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:44 pm to ProjectP2294
Parity can mean one of two things... everyone is really good, top to bottom. Or everyone is only kind of good and even sleeper teams get a real chance to win. Which one are we seeing lately?
If anything, there's been a REAL opportunity for LSU to win at least a couple championships the last 7 years. But it's been more than just that 3rd starter that has gotten us. An error here or there (kids unprepared?) and really questionable calls (not bunting raph, godfrey in to pitch) that we actually had control over. "Luck" is the worst argument here. I absolutely hate it. It's not like a ball has hit a rock bouncing in the infield, or someone tripped on their shoelaces.
If anything, there's been a REAL opportunity for LSU to win at least a couple championships the last 7 years. But it's been more than just that 3rd starter that has gotten us. An error here or there (kids unprepared?) and really questionable calls (not bunting raph, godfrey in to pitch) that we actually had control over. "Luck" is the worst argument here. I absolutely hate it. It's not like a ball has hit a rock bouncing in the infield, or someone tripped on their shoelaces.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:46 pm to ell_13
quote:We have been the second best program to only USC since Paul has gotten here, and that USC coach is retired.....
Parity can mean one of two things... everyone is really good, top to bottom. Or everyone is only kind of good and even sleeper teams get a real chance to win. Which one are we seeing lately?
If anything, there's been a REAL opportunity for LSU to win at least a couple championships the last 7 years. But it's been more than just that 3rd starter that has gotten us. An error here or there (kids unprepared?) and really questionable calls (not bunting raph, godfrey in to pitch) that we actually had control over. "Luck" is the worst argument here. I absolutely hate it. It's not like a ball has hit a rock bouncing in the infield, or someone tripped on their shoelaces
So judging him against his peers he has been great, but you and others are judging him against the past
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:48 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:You are comparing football to Baseball?
That must be Alabama's advantage in football
What are the chances a team like Coastal Carolina or Fresno could ever win a football title?
0.0%
Yet, it has happened twice in the last 8 years in baseball.....
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:51 pm to lsupride87
quote:I'm not denying how good we've been. It's exactly what I'm saying. We HAVE been very good.
We have been the second best program to only USC since Paul has gotten here
quote:Can I just judge him on the decisions he makes? I supported him when he went with poche vs TCU. But frick putting in our worst pitcher because you're so obsessed with matchups. I supported him when he moved Nola to SS, but why the hell don't you bunt Raph when all you need is one damn run?
So judging him against his peers he has been great, but you and others are judging him against the past
We've been the kings of regular season. And I totally agree that stepping back and looking at things as a whole from the outside, it's a good resume. But when you watch the games and see these head scratchers, it's a miracle he won it all once.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:53 pm to ell_13
quote:I often disagree with Paul. But how many games do you watch every play of to see if you disagree with their head coach?
Can I just judge him on the decisions he makes? I supported him when he went with poche vs TCU. But frick putting in our worst pitcher because you're so obsessed with matchups. I supported him when he moved Nola to SS, but why the hell don't you bunt Raph when all you need is one damn run?
We've been the kings of regular season. And I totally agree that stepping back and looking at things as a whole from the outside, it's a good resume. But when you watch the games and see these head scratchers, it's a miracle he won it all once.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:55 pm to ell_13
Im not saying its impossible, but its a hell of alot harder to do. No one dominates past the regional round really. Once you get down to 16, its usually whoever is hottest that takes it. Having experience and great pitching depth usually helps.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:58 pm to lsupride87
I have no problem not bunting raph, dude was a beast all year, not sure if he even bunted that year, and playing for the win didnt bother me. Bregmans error sucked. Tcu was just a better team than us. More pitching depth. Godfrey was an odd choice at the time, but i just dont think it would have mattered
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 4:59 pm to lsupride87
quote:None. I'm not going to any games looking for his mistakes. It's not like they're happening every single game. But I notice/remember when they happen, certainly the big games. And it's fair to say that the competition is much better, tougher in Omaha. I agree. And I believe that what often separates teams in these evenly matched games isn't "luck" but coaching. The right call/risk at the right time so often sets teams apart in those games. Like I don't fault him for losing game one to TCU. Poche makes a throw and I think we win.
I often disagree with Paul. But how many games do you watch every play of to see if you disagree with their head coach?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:00 pm to The Boat
OP, look at this year's Top 10. 4 SEC teams in the top 10, 3-4 more scattered throughout the top 20. And it' like this practically every year. His record in the toughest league in the country speaks for itself. His peers voted him SEC COY two years ago. Love Skip as a baseball coach, but he did not have to beat near the number of league teams quality wise back then as CPM has been doing.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 5:01 pm to The Boat
PM has had some good teams since the 2009 season. He's just not hungry enough. He won a title and now he satisfied with just being a great program.
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