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re: The real issue that holds lsu athletics back is administration.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
This is unfortunately true. They want to win, but will not do whatever it takes to win you know what I mean. Alabama will do what ever it takes whether it's money are just put anyone and everyone on staff they can.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:15 am to ShortyRob
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We fired a guy to hire his lesser clone. And, pay the lesser clone less than practically the entire SEC pays.............making LSU look like they just wanted to go cheap.
We fired miles because we know just being a great recruiter and great motivator that has questionable game day coaching ISNT enough for us to reach our goals. At one time it may have been but not anymore
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:24 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:17 am to TigerFanNKaty
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Alabama will do what ever it takes whether it's money are just put anyone and everyone on staff they can.
Exactly. Do you think Bama's administration ever tells saban he cant have the money for something he thinks will improve the program? Hell no.
Can you imagine Bama ever elevating a 55 year old career position coach to be their HC? Hell no.
Like ive repeatedly said, of youre ok with this hire then youre ok with lsu never reaching Bama's level of prestige. Bottomline
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
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We fired miles because we know jist being a great recruiter and great motivator that has questionable game day coaching ISNT enough for us to reach our goals.
That's why I thought we fired him.
But the dude that actually fired him apparently had other ideas. LOL
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:26 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Can you imagine Bama ever elevating a 55 year old career position coach to be their HC? Hell no.
Mike Dubose and Mike Shula, although Shula was briefly an OC in the NFL. We think of Alabama as some standard of excellence, but before Saban got there they were a hot mess. Throw in Mike Price for fun.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:29 am to TigerFanNKaty
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This is unfortunately true. They want to win, but will not do whatever it takes to win
It's not only that, the administration seems to be incapable of carrying out a proper coaching search.
The rule of thumb is the shorter the time between firing your current coach and hiring the next coach the better. This long drawn out shite like this past year has a high probability of impacting the program negatively. As ShortyRob said in another post our hope is that we can go 10-2 next year to carry some momentum into recruiting 2018.
The problem is one down year in recruiting in this conference and we can really fall behind as a program. See 2012 as an example.
This administration needs to focus on the things that will attract the best talent. Are they doing that? At the moment it does not appear so.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:31 am to TigerFanNKaty
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Alabama will do what ever it takes
No they won't. Alabama got extremely lucky that Saban hated the NFL. They didn't "go get the best". Saban had Sexton call them and lay out what it would take to get him. Even then some on their board didn't want to take the chance on waiting for the NFL season to end to get him. Even knowing they had a chance to get Saban, they still basically had RichRod hired until he backed out right before getting on the plane to Tuscaloosa. I'm convinced someone internally sabotaged that deal.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:32 am to ShortyRob
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That's why I thought we fired him.
But the dude that actually fired him apparently had other ideas. LOL
ain't that the truth!
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:36 am to ShortyRob
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That's why I thought we fired him.
But the dude that actually fired him apparently had other ideas. LOL
Alleva is making a common mistake here. He knew what Miles had the program close to an elite level but Miles' shortcomings kept it from getting there. He thinks Orgeron can fix those things, and O somewhat showed that he could in his time at interim. However, there is nothing to indicate the Orgeron can maintain a program he didn't build over several years. His negatives could be far worse than Miles'.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:38 am to Rickdaddy4188
The real issue that holds LSU back is our people don't give enough money to the school and athletic program. If you want to be bama, you better start supporting the university like bama people. This is a fact and it's not disputable.
LSU is last in the SEC in alumni donations.
LSU is last in the SEC in alumni donations.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:40 am to lurkr
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The real issue that holds LSU back is our people don't give enough money to the school and athletic program. If you want to be bama, you better start supporting the university like bama people. This is a fact and it's not disputable.
LSU is last in the SEC in alumni donations.
We are one of the top 5 most profitable Athletic Departments in the country. We have the money to spend.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:40 am to lurkr
I would argue that more alumni would make donations if they were confident in the administration. Alleva and F King dont have alot of confidence in them from potential donors.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:45 am to ForeLSU
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Alleva is making a common mistake here. He knew what Miles had the program close to an elite level but Miles' shortcomings kept it from getting there. He thinks Orgeron can fix those things, and O somewhat showed that he could in his time at interim. However, there is nothing to indicate the Orgeron can maintain a program he didn't build over several years. His negatives could be far worse than Miles'.
Yep. I call it single variable thinking.
He's thinking, "we're close........eliminate the one thing holding us back and we're there".
Problem is, this assumes that all of the things Miles did RIGHT are just static. That they'll remain forever and that ONLY the flaws from Miles will be what changes.
People evaluate problems this way all the time and it's a failed strategy. There is literally no reason to believe that what you get with O is "the same as before plus better offense". Any moron that thinks being HC in an interim status helps evaluate all of the other things it takes to keep a program on a perch, you're insane.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:45 am to ForeLSU
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Mike Dubose and Mike Shula, although Shula was briefly an OC in the NFL
So no they werent 55 year old career dline coaches.
Also the only reason dubose was hired was because they were on probation and he was very successful nfl coach.
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but before Saban got there they were a hot mess. Throw in Mike Price for fun.
Wow. Before going to bama mike price was avery successful hc that won 2 pac 12 titles at washington state.
Mike price was qualified.
Ed Orgeron= career dline coach and one the worst winning % in sec history as his only hc stop
Mike Price= 2 pac 12 title in 4 years at Washington State
Its like you dont know you can look this shite up before posting.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:45 am to adamb2151
If they were donating before and stopped, I would agree with you. They never did.
On a different note. If "Fans" demanded the perfection from themselves that they do the program. It would be the program they have in their head.
On a different note. If "Fans" demanded the perfection from themselves that they do the program. It would be the program they have in their head.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:47 am to More beer please
Profitable and donations are not always one in the same. If our people donated what other alumni donated it would be double what it is now.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:51 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow. Before going to bama mike price was avery successful hc that won 2 pac 12 titles at washington state.
Mike price was qualified.
People seem to think that if a coaching hire doesn't end up working out, it means the person wasn't qualified in the first place.
This is like saying, "we were dumb to land the 5 star QB when that other team had success with the 3 star". As if the odds of success aren't better when landing 5 Stars.
You don't miss with a 5 star and say, "frick, it, only 3 stars for us from now on"!!
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:51 am to ForeLSU
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They didn't "go get the best"
really? then why was mal moore holed up in a hotel not far from where Generalissimo Saban lived and Saban would not even meet with him? Moore had to get sexton to call him to go to the meeting. Bama/REC boosters told moore don't bother coming back without the General.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:51 am to Rickdaddy4188
rick daddy ! the grass is not greener out there, different is not necessarily better , if you have a good successful coach, hang on to him for they are not the norm !
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:52 am to lurkr
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Profitable and donations are not always one in the same. If our people donated what other alumni donated it would be double what it is now.
That has absolutely nothing to do with any of this. Shitty hires cant be blamed on potential what if donations.
We have the money. End of story. You want more donations? Send out more marketing ploys. I havent gotten one email from LSU asking about donations other than to renew TAF and tickets. And I get zero from the University itself.
Also keep in mind that other schools alumni donate to the school and not the athletic department separately.
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