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re: the primary difference between the Richt and Miles coaching 'change'

Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:18 am to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23307 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:18 am to
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Bama out recruits Ole Miss every year. I guess their coaching isn't so great, either


Ole Miss barely beat them with 5 turnovers. Ole Miss beat us by 21. Are you trying to point out some kind of moral victory?
Posted by anchovyd
Mainland, FL
Member since Sep 2014
280 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:23 am to
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OMG you guys he's such a great recruiter why are we a middle of the pack SEC west team with all of this great talent


He is also great at squandering talent with his terrible scheme, offensive philosophy and lack of game calling skills.

If we had a guy like Mike Leach here or one of his disciples as a fully autonomous OC like Lincoln Riley or Holgorsen who knows how to fully utilize that talent we'd be dominant.

Look at Riley's immediate impact on OU. That's the difference between Stoops and Miles, Stoops is smart. He lets Riley do his thing. If Miles were to bring one of these guys in, he'd have him running the same shitty offense that we've seen for the past 6 years or so.

The last time I saw anthing interesting on offense was when Crowton was here running those goofball sets. Crowton wasn't great but it was interesting. Everything offense since has had Miles' thumbprint on it.

I think the Leach guys would run a much more successful scheme. Crowtons was too out there, we have enough talent that we don't have to run gimmick sets like Crowton was pushing hard. We just don't have enough talent to power run over teams like Bama and Arkansas. Their front 7's are too big, strong and talented.

Les' stuff should work against A&M, Ole Miss, and South Carolina but just ain't gonna work against Bama, Ark, FL, and Georgia.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:34 am to
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coach who had his team ranked #2 overall


One media idiot made this fricking idiotic argument, and the rest repeat it. The only rankings that mean a damn thing are the ones that determine the 4 playoff teams and the end of season rankings. Who gives a flaming frick what LSU was ranked before we got to the meat of our schedule? It was completely meaningless at that point as evidenced by the fact that the #2 ranking was complete and utter horseshite.

ETA: I mean for fricks sake Moo St. was ranked #1 at one point last season. Then Bama arse raped them. Does anyone remember what bowl Moo St. went to? Whether they won it? What their final ranking was? Who gives a flying frick?!

Hallelujah. Holy shite. Where's the Tylenol?
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:38 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5539 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 am to
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Bama out recruits Ole Miss every year. I guess their coaching isn't so great, either
Ole Miss barely beat them with 5 turnovers.


First, Ole Miss beat Bama the last TWO years in a row. Why is Bama not canning Saban and hiring Freeze?

Second, what does Saban's recent recruiting record look like?

Third, it’s not the X’s and O’s, it’s the Jimmys and the Joes.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 am to
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If we had a guy like Mike Leach here or one of his disciples as a fully autonomous OC like Lincoln Riley or Holgorsen who knows how to fully utilize that talent we'd be dominant...Les' stuff should work against A&M, Ole Miss, and South Carolina but just ain't gonna work against Bama, Ark, FL, and Georgia.



You mean the Mike Leach who has one 10 win season in 14 years as a head coach and who lost to Alabama when Mike Shula was their coach (and scored all of 10 points doing it with one of his best teams record wise) would come in and start winning all of a sudden against some of the best defenses in the country?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:42 am to
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This isn't going to go over well
Like I said
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22006 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:43 am to
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So it's not Alleva's fault?
probably not, unless this quest for Jimbo was done behind Alexander's back, which I doubt it was.

My best guess...Alexander agreed to let Aleva and boosters explore a replacement for Miles...and when they came back with the price tag (Miles buyout plus what it would cost to pay Fisher), Alexander nixed it.

This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:47 am to
That is exactly what happened.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22150 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:09 pm to
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You mean the Mike Leach who has one 10 win season in 14 years as a head coach and who lost to Alabama when Mike Shula was their coach (and scored all of 10 points doing it with one of his best teams record wise) would come in and start winning all of a sudden against some of the best defenses in the country?

No, no. I think he meant the Mike Leach whose offensive genius would destroy teams like Portland State.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61824 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:17 pm to
Thanks
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14175 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:34 pm to
He can recruit with the best of them. Sadly, he and his staff don't have a clue what to do with the talent when once it's on board.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Short memory, you don't make a coaching change at a program like ours based on 3 games. How'd we do against Ole miss and Bama last year? Definitely didn't get destroyed.


I don't want the coaching change based on 3 games.

I want the coaching change based on 4 years of steady decline and the utter failure to address critical glaring flaws.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:49 pm to
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Really??? We had some key pieces taken away BECAUSE of injury


every single team in the country can make this argument, every single year.

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11102 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:54 pm to
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every single team in the country can make this argument, every single year


True. But, specifically, we are speaking about LSU.
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