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re: The "Pause" before snapping the ball??
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:12 pm to CountryVolFan
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:12 pm to CountryVolFan
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However, the OL has to be stationary for 20 seconds every play.
I think that is a problem. I'm also surprised it hasnt led to more false starts.
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Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:15 pm to JustSmokin
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Right. They can also quick snap if defense isn't ready.
They should do this once or twice to make your post even more appropriate. Let's face it, our offense is not keeping the opposing defense off balance and we've still averaged 26 pts offensively.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:24 pm to iknowmorethanyou
It's obvious that the 20 second issue is a problem for the o-line. Hasn't Ciron, Mr. O-line, been flagged 3 times already this year for offsides??
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:35 pm to JustSmokin
The difference is: Instead of relying on your 19-22 year old QB to read the defense, it gives the O coordinator and coaches the opportunity to read and audible if necessary.
I don't like it, but I bet the traditional "huddle" will be a thing of the past in 5 years. It makes a lot of sense.
Oh yeah - it also prevents the D from subbing.
I don't like it, but I bet the traditional "huddle" will be a thing of the past in 5 years. It makes a lot of sense.
Oh yeah - it also prevents the D from subbing.
This post was edited on 9/21/09 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:37 pm to cggeaxtigers
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The difference is: Instead of relying on your 19-22 year old QB to read the defense, it gives the O coordinator and coaches the opportunity to read and audible if necessary.
I don't like it, but I bet the traditional "huddle" will be a thing of the past in 5 years. It makes a lot of sense.
Oh yeah - it also prevents the D from subbing.
So LSU's offense would be even more inconsistent with a huddle? I think the benefits are offset by the drawbacks of making the OL crouch for 20 seconds.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:39 pm to Blast and Laugh
It drives me nuts!! 
But I'll bet it drives the other team crazy too, so I can live with it.
But I'll bet it drives the other team crazy too, so I can live with it.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:42 pm to cggeaxtigers
I don't know if i agree. JJ's age should not be a factor, if he's too young Miles would have him on the bench. JJ can run the offense, make all of the throws and he has the ability. But what i am seeing is an offense that is out of sync which is what the pause is supposed to improve.
The last time i saw this method work was Chris Leak's senior year (Tebow's 1st year) when Leak would look to the side for direction. It worked against LSU but they lost 3 games that year with young players.
The last time i saw this method work was Chris Leak's senior year (Tebow's 1st year) when Leak would look to the side for direction. It worked against LSU but they lost 3 games that year with young players.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:47 pm to biglego
What ever happened with lining up & blow them off the line. U can't tell me whey don't have a lot of talent. 
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:51 pm to JustSmokin
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Right. They can also quick snap if defense isn't ready.
Which they haven't done at all in 3 games. There were at least 2 times againt ULL when a quick snap would have really worked.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 3:56 pm to cajunjj
Right on brother! Line em' up and blow them off the ball and let Scott and Williams do their thing. Then, throw in Holliday and Shepard for a lightning with that thunder.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:06 pm to cggeaxtigers
quote:and they will never learn to if you don't teach them to... this is what the first few games should be for... get em prepared. let em practice reading the defenses IRL, and teach/correct them when them make mistakes...
Instead of relying on your 19-22 year old QB to read the defense
quote:Whats stopping the defenses from changing its defensive call as they change the offensive call? i say there's not a significant advantage gained...
it gives the O coordinator and coaches the opportunity to read and audible if necessar
I personally hate it also. we haven't had real good line play this year, so if its helping JJ, but effecting the line play which would give JJ the time to throw, where it the advantage....
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:13 pm to Tiger7109
The "pause" is killing the offense. You call the play, the player goes over the play in his mind as he approaches the line of scrimmage. Once you are in your stance you are anticipating going about your assignment and the continuation of the play. But no, you pause and the play changes and all the anticipation and defensive keys you were looking at are different. Before you can process all the new info, the ball is snapped and Charles Scott runs into a pile of people 8 feet wide amd 7 feet tall. Please, stop the pause and looking to the sideline. Who is being fooled by this??? Snap the ball and run the play you called adn EXECUTE!!! Football is in my opinion, all about continuation. Call the play, approach the line of scrimmage, snap the ball and block and run like hell!!! JMHO
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:14 pm to CountryVolFan
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However, the OL has to be stationary for 20 seconds every play.
Exactly. Never played OL, but this has to be tougher physically and mentally than just getting up there and making something happen. IMO
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:16 pm to TiegerTim
Agreed, that's the main job of the QB, to read the defense.
It's like these dam GPS systems, you start relying on them so much for directions, you never learn how to get anywhere......
It's like these dam GPS systems, you start relying on them so much for directions, you never learn how to get anywhere......
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:18 pm to rbf1216
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However, the OL has to be stationary for 20 seconds every play.
Exactly. Never played OL, but this has to be tougher physically and mentally than just getting up there and making something happen. IMO
I played TE in high school, and the last thing I wanted to do after getting into a 3-pt stance was to hold that pose for 15-20 secs. As soon as I got to the line, I wanted to play. Plus I would think it would add to the false starts, although I dont know if it has or not.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:20 pm to biglego
I certainly think it has added to false starts, and o-line issues. Plus i have noticed KW on several occasiones get frustrated with the changes, or not being able to hear the changes at the line. 
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:23 pm to Geauxtiga
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No but I think JJ leaning forward as he gets the snap, on run plays, is a tell.
BINGO!! I kept watching him telegraph and wondering how long the coaches would let this continue. He was almost taking a step at times before the snap. He did not do it quite as often toward the end of the game.
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:26 pm to Hoodatt
Didn't Jarret Lee just walk up to the line and call the snap and throw the TD??
Is this just a JJ thing??
Is this just a JJ thing??
Posted on 9/21/09 at 4:42 pm to Blast and Laugh
Aside from any football related reasons its just a matter of kinetics and the human body...when I was learning tennis instructors emphasized a continuous service motion from start to finish with only a little pause when you drew the racquet back. This creates tension and "loads" the muscles. A longer pause causes the muscles to settle into place and you lose the "spring" effect that gives you your power.
I think the same goes for approaching the line, getting in a stance, then being delayed. You lose the anticipation and in some cases your focus.
I hate the "look to the sidelines" offense
I think the same goes for approaching the line, getting in a stance, then being delayed. You lose the anticipation and in some cases your focus.
I hate the "look to the sidelines" offense
Posted on 9/21/09 at 5:25 pm to Blast and Laugh
I wonder what OL recruits think of coming into a system that does this?
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