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re: The issue of Alex Lange
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:11 am to ThaTigerDon
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:11 am to ThaTigerDon
Great players struggle from time to time... it's never just ONE thing though. There isn't an "issue" because great players overcome a single issue without most noticing. This is a culmination of most things discussed ad nauseam around here.
Whether it's film, him pressing to stay at the top, a few mechanical hitches that occur from time to time, or the addition of a new pitch. Give him some time to settle in and have confidence in the staff to get him back to where he needs to be and you'll see a better Lange than you did last year at that point.
Whether it's film, him pressing to stay at the top, a few mechanical hitches that occur from time to time, or the addition of a new pitch. Give him some time to settle in and have confidence in the staff to get him back to where he needs to be and you'll see a better Lange than you did last year at that point.
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:14 am to ThaTigerDon
Like many have said, it's a mechanics issue. IMO, he seems to be overthrowing which is leading to control issues. No doubt Dunn and Lange will get it fixed.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:15 am to Rouge
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Todd walker was turrible as a sophisticated
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:20 am to ThaTigerDon
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Im not sure if this has been discussed yet. Here is my two cents take it or leave it. Like every phenom we have ever had at LSU. (I have been a fan in the seats since the late 80's) Freshman season is always great. Catches teams off guard because there is no readily available film on the guy. Sophmore season comes around and if your good your films is in every opponents locker room. Book it! I mean you dont have to go far back to see a comparison. Alex Bregman, though not a pitcher had the same issue but overcame it. Freshman season slapped the cover off the ball. Next everyone pitched around him. Its just part of the game. Lange will find another gear and be dominant.
You don't English good.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:31 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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So his missing the strike zone because people have film on him now?
Both points of view are partly correct. Scouting has resulted in hitters keeping their bats on their shoulders when Lange buries his curve in the dirt. Last year they were swinging at that. This has put more pressure on his fastball.
Also, as someone pointed out, he seems to be having some mechanical issues from the stretch. Although I'm always suspicious of that kind of statistic. It's like how batting averages are always higher with runners on base. Base runners are kind of a sign that the pitcher is struggling, right? I'd expect batting averages to be higher when the pitcher is struggling.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:33 am to ThaTigerDon
I agree with others in this thread talking about the problem being in the mechanics. Lange is still mid-90s on his fast ball and can be vicious with that knuckle-curve.
His first inning against Sac. St. looked like his performances from last season. Then comes the second inning and he can't breath through his eyelids.
I'm interested in what Dunn is telling him at practice and during visits to the mound. I'd love to know Dunn's diagnosis.
His first inning against Sac. St. looked like his performances from last season. Then comes the second inning and he can't breath through his eyelids.
I'm interested in what Dunn is telling him at practice and during visits to the mound. I'd love to know Dunn's diagnosis.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:36 am to ThaTigerDon
he's probably just getting laid a lot more. Takes his focus off of baseball.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:36 am to Penrod
His knuckle curve is just nasty. You can watch all the film in the world but when he throws it right, it will fool people more times than not. Ben McDonald commented the other night it looks like when he is in the stretch his arm motion is telegraphing it to the hitters which last year that wasn't a problem.
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:54 am to ThaTigerDon
The players get a scouting report on the pitcher just to know if there is certain habits he has in certain counts and what kind of pitches he throws. Watching fill doesn't do much for a player in baseball, all you need is a simple scouting report then grip it and rip it.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 8:58 am to ThaTigerDon
They would have pitched around Bregman as a freshman, they just couldn't with the lineup around him. There were very few guys to pitch around.
It's not a film issue with Lange, it's a control issue.
It's not a film issue with Lange, it's a control issue.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:15 am to ThaTigerDon
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lSophmore season comes around and if your good your films is in every opponents locker room.
The opponents having film on Lange is the reason his fastball is bouncing 2 feet in front of the plate?
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:17 am to ThaTigerDon
If you are pitcher with the "stuff" Lange has all he needs to do is locate his pitches and he will dominate in college. Lange only issue the last few starts is he is not locating his pitches AND he is throwing a fast ball first pitch down the heart of the plate too often trying to get ahead of the hitters.
He will make adjustments and be just fine..
He will make adjustments and be just fine..
Posted on 3/9/16 at 9:52 am to ThaTigerDon
Aaron Nola seemed to throw right through his Sophomore and Junior seasons.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:01 am to lsu2006
Not every phenom, but there have been quite a few. Todd Walker is pretty much the only baseball player who performed at an all american level from the start of his freshman year to the end of his career at LSU. Just remember our previous 4 freshmen all american pitcher
(Laxton, Schultz, Mestapey and Ott). Only Mestapey had a good sophomore year before he blew his arm out. By the end of their careers they were nowhere near their freshman year.
I think Lange's is just mechanical and not arm. Give CPM credit for not overusing him last year.
(Laxton, Schultz, Mestapey and Ott). Only Mestapey had a good sophomore year before he blew his arm out. By the end of their careers they were nowhere near their freshman year.
I think Lange's is just mechanical and not arm. Give CPM credit for not overusing him last year.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:07 am to TigerDM
Sophomore slumps are real!!
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:18 am to TigerDM
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Todd Walker is pretty much the only baseball player who performed at an all american level from the start of his freshman year to the end of his career at LSU.
Say Hello to Eddy Furniss
Fr .326 9 HR 52 RBI
So .374 26 HR 103 RBI
Jr .378 17 HR 77 RBI
Sr .403 28 HR 76 RBI
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:20 am to ThaTigerDon
Ok, first off the kid is a pitcher. He throws 80 - 100 pitches every game so even mentioning game film is ridiculous. His tendencies and stuff were well known after maybe two outings last year combined with Dunn's pitch calling. Also he isn't a finesse pitcher that is out there trying to fool every hitter he faces and relying on off speed stuff. He can flat out throw it past most hitters when he is on. This is a mechanics issue and a kid that is pressing because he knows the scouts are out and he is overthrowing. He will get his head straight and settle down. Dominant pitchers don't just suddenly get figured out by watching film.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 10:27 am to ThaTigerDon
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:44 pm to ThaTigerDon
quote:Yes, I fully expect all hitters to 'hit around' Lange the way Bregs was pitched around.
Alex Bregman, though not a pitcher had the same issue but overcame it. Freshman season slapped the cover off the ball. Next everyone pitched around him. Its just part of the game. Lange will find another gear and be dominant.
You have made one of the worst comparisons ever made on TD.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:03 pm to ThaTigerDon
quote:You're right. Todd Walker batted .400 as a FR and only .395 as a SO.
Im not sure if this has been discussed yet. Here is my two cents take it or leave it. Like every phenom we have ever had at LSU. (I have been a fan in the seats since the late 80's) Freshman season is always great. Catches teams off guard because there is no readily available film on the guy. Sophmore season comes around and if your good your films is in every opponents locker room. Book it!
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