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re: The Grass is Not Always Greener
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:00 pm to Oizers
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:00 pm to Oizers
quote:
After a while, 9-10 win seasons while finishing no better than 3rd in the SEC West is no different than being winless.
Speaking from a fan who endured Curley Hallman's five year plan, I can guarantee you that's not the same.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:27 pm to LSUFreek
quote:
LSUFreek
You make some very valid points, but not making change for fear of failure going forward does not seem like the best strategy. We are in it to win SEC and National championships if we start getting further from our goals rather than closer to our goals "13-1, 10-3, 10-3 and 7-4 currently with a chance of maybe 7-6" then not affecting change for fear of what the future holds will keep you failing. You have to keep trying to attain your goals even if that dictates changing personnel with the fear that it might not be greener.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:53 pm to LSUFreek
please add to the op nebraska and florida!
even lsu after mcclendon!
etc, etc, etc....
thanks for a great post
even lsu after mcclendon!
etc, etc, etc....
thanks for a great post
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:02 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:Thanks for setting us straight. I think.
quote: I'm a Centre-positiger, meaning I'm an LSU fan who is idealistic enough to spin most negative events positively for LSU, but realistic enough that said positivity doesn't prevent me from pointing out when shite just doesn't jibe with winning football.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:25 pm to LSUFreek
quote:
History shows that result is more likely to happen rather than getting an up & coming Urban Meyer from Utah.
The next Saban/Meyer may well be Saban disciple(at MSU and Bama) Jim McElwain..doing great things in three years at CSU. Justin Fuente also a fast riser at Memphis. Both have flipped the switch in 3rd years at inherited moribund programs.
I think LSU could get a high quality proven standing HC, one of stature from the Power 5 conferences, yet at current slightly lesser platform. It's a very attractive job.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:37 pm to LSUFreek
4.5 million dollars a year for a 4-5 loss season, no thanks. He is being paid top tier pay and producing near bottom results. He has had 2 great seasons and has underachieved with talent that just about any coach could have a modicum of success
I can say that the grass may not be greener but watching paint dry is more entertaining than our offensive production
I can say that the grass may not be greener but watching paint dry is more entertaining than our offensive production
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:00 am to Mike da Tigah
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Speaking from a fan who endured Curley Hallman's five year plan, I can guarantee you that's not the same.
I understand, but the expectations of fans are different now. LSU has decided to pay a lot of money for a coach so there is an inherent expectation by fans to challenge for titles.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:10 am to LSUFreek
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Michigan: -"Fire Lloyd Carr! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Rich Rod! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Brady Hoke! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" Tennessee: -"Fire Phil Fulmer! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Lane Kiffin! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Derek Dooley! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -(Soon) "Fire Butch Jones! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" Notre Dame: -"Fire Bob Davie! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Tyrone Willingham! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Charlie Weis! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -(Soon)"Fire Brian Kelly! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" USC: -"Fire Lane Kiffin! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Ed Ogeron! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Steve Sarkisian! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" Texas: -"Fire Mack Brown! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Charlie Strong! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" Bama: -"Fire Ray Perkins! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Gene Stallings! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Mike Dubose! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Dennis Franchione! We are a great program who can get a great coach!" -"Fire Mike Sula! We are a great program who can get a great coach!"
All of those schools have major programs to compete with in state.. and don't have exactly have the same talent pool as Louisiana.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:23 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
What about FSU, BAYLOR, UCLA, AUB, A&M. Whoever the next coach at LSU is wont have a problem recruiting top classes.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:14 am to blackjackjackson
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please add to the op nebraska and florida!
Florida, really??
So you are saying it was a mistake to fire Ron Zook? They replaced him with a coach who won them two national championships.
No, that cant be it, so what was Florida's mistake? You saying they should have kept Muschamp?
Nebraska is a dead program, you are not going to get kids to go to live in Nebraska now that every school is on tv, it is a totally different time now than it was back in the days they were dominating. I think Bo Pelini is doing about as well as can be expected there.
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even lsu after mcclendon!
LSU hired the best up and coming coach in the nation after they fired McClendon, unfortunately he died in a plane crash, you cant predict that. It was not a mistake to move on from McClendon, in his 18 years at LSU he only had 4 seasons where he didnt lose at least 3 games and in three of those seasons he had a tie. He NEVER won 10 games. Why are LSU fans always willing to settle for second best (or third, fourth, fifth, etc. ) in fear of striving for the best?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:16 am to LSUFreek
quote:We have no grass left.
The Grass is Not Always Greener
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:23 am to LSUFreek
quote:
"We are a great program who can get a great coach!"
HAMLET
To be, or not to be? That is the question—
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And, by opposing, end them?
Not a new problem, takes COURAGE Something I am familiar with and have seen when it really matters.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:27 am to LSUFreek
Chavis, Cameron, etc can be replaced ... but Miles can't. Silly
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:30 am to BCS Statmaster
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Chavis, Cameron, etc can be replaced ... but Miles can't. Silly
Yours Truly,
Gus Malzahn and Dan Mullen
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:41 am to BCS Statmaster
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but Miles can't. Silly
Why is it silly? Its not that hard to replace a coach who averages 3 losses a season.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:42 am to BCS Statmaster
Miles can't be replaced bc he pens love letters to the entire city of Baton Rouge (even North BR) and his dunces eat that shite up.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:43 am to higgins
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"We could do worse"-- the fear of the complacent.
The mediocrities of the world motto.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:46 am to TigerGman
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The mediocrities of the world motto.
"When you have had a taste of excellence, you cannot go back to mediocrity." Maximillian Degenerez
Posted on 11/17/14 at 7:46 am to LSUFreek
Auburn getting Malzahn is also a success story to be added.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:14 am to The Godfather
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Its not that hard to replace a coach whose team is unranked
FIFY
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