quote:I call BS on this statement. First of all, you can't speak for "most" people here. You can speak for yourself. If it's your impression that most people who think Miles underachieves are also people who don't like him you are sadly mistaken. A lot of people who like Les Miles also think he underachieves, with whatever level of talent LSU is currently serving as a team. And while a lot of mouths mouth off about LSU's talent being better than anybody's, even you admit LSU recruits "as well as anyone." IMO, what you have missed is that if you are correct, then our offensive talent must surely be good enough to not look like it has looked the last several years. And in particular this year, when it seems like scoring touchdowns, and hell, even getting key first downs, is a massive, titanic struggle.
Most people that don't like Miles and think he vastly underachieves do so because they vastly OVERestimate our talent advantage over everyone else.
quote:True. And I say, "Sometimes the plan stinks. Sometimes the plan looks more like no plan. Sometimes, a lot of times, the plan needs some serious work." It seems to me, and I like Les Miles as a person and want desperately for him to overcome these last few years of offensive malaise, that he needs to do some serious coach work on fixing what's broken. Because it is broken. The offense, I mean. And it's not just because there isn't enough LSU talent out there to make it work.
Sometimes things don't according to plan.
the same record but did it with better coaching
Lsu is going to bring in back to back top 5 classes. The doom and gloom recruiting hopes of some are just going to have to keep waiting like the previous 7 years.
The consensus topic seems to be that Miles doesn't do enough with the players he has. Its as if Miles is just given the recruits and gets ZERO credit for them. I agree our offense has problems and needs to change.But lets not act like he's Zook or Orgeron that does absolutely nothing with the talent they brought in.
yet again you contradict yourself.
Sure we see flashes of the talent but overall our offensive unit looks and plays like a bunch of 2 star recruits. Our offense usually is rated in the bottom half of D-1 rankings...with top talent...it is coaching/scheme/ development or whatever else you want to call it.
Lsu is a talented team.
The classes lsu has brought in the last 4 years are highly regarded but by no means make lsu head and shoulders more talented than every other team.
quote:Some just will not look at it square on and call it like it is. Glad you spelled it out in plain English. Hell, even with mediocre talent on offense, LSU should have more to show for effort made than we have shown. Struggles to score TD, struggles to get first downs, struggles to sustain long drives are not a product of lesser talent. They are an indicator of two things: underachievement/complacency and a serious lack of any kind of effective offensive scheme/game plan. Game after game. Ask yourself: when's the last time you've seen LSU blow out an opponent on offense? Even Cholly Mac's defensive oriented teams would and could blow out opponents, and did. Including worthy OoC opposing teams like FSU, Notre Dame... Since 1/9/12, we're just not seeing that kind of play out of LSU.
Our offense usually is rated in the bottom half of D-1 rankings...with top talent...it is coaching/scheme/ development or whatever else you want to call it.
Alabama is clearly more talented going by their last 4 classes.
Georgia and Florida have a big argument for claiming more talent.
Auburn has even had better classes than lsu recently.
You are telling me he cant out recruit Auburn who plays second fiddle to bama in their own state? Very telling about how "great" miles is recruiting.
They are an indicator of two things: underachievement/complacency and a serious lack of any kind of effective offensive scheme/game plan. Game after game. Ask yourself: when's the last time you've seen LSU blow out an opponent on offense?
Recruit a ridiculously high caliber of athletes then get killed for not turning that talent into 13-0 teams. Its as if the recruiting actually goes against him.
What's ridiculous is the notion that lsu has the best talent every year that rantards keep spewing. That's not even close to true. Is lsu talented? Yes. Are they in a class by themselves? Not even close.
Who is more talented?
Rank Team Points LOI
1 USC 12802 105
2 Rank Team Points LOI
1 USC 12802 105
2 Florida 12224 111
3 Alabama 12167 131
4 Texas 11906 111
5 LSU 11889 127
6 Georgia 10219 110
7 Florida State 10117 124
8 Oklahoma 9891 111
9 Notre Dame 9834 105
10 Ohio State 9790 102