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re: The "call" explained
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:30 pm to PaperTiger
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:30 pm to PaperTiger
just so stupid to send a guy who scores on the play uncontested back to 3rd
esp. since the double play was still completed
esp. since the double play was still completed
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Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:30 pm to jwall3
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Wrong. One leg went over the bag
This is what you call "fake news."
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:31 pm to tLSU
So he didn't toich the bag at all then?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:31 pm to moock blackjack
I wish I could agree. That's a harsh rule, but the same shite happened to me because the ump thought one of my players didn't slide soon enough at second. Cost us a run and auto double play because that runner and batter are ruled out. Unfortunately, that's the rule...no runner can advance.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:32 pm to jwall3
The slide rule should not impact a run being scored in that situation. There was zero doubt the run was gonna score + they turned DP anyway. Rule needs to be changed
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:32 pm to moock blackjack
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Bottom line that call should never been made there!! Run scoring was not effected by that play. No call was the correct decision!!
You're probably right. Maybe next time slaughter can just run up and deck the second baseman right as he throws. No call as long as he gets the double play off.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:32 pm to rt3
Yeah, that is what sucks. Also what sucks is Slaughter was busting his arse and playing hard.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:33 pm to jwall3
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So he didn't toich the bag at all then?
Not until after the umpire's hands were in the air. When play was stopped, and he was trying to figure out a way to make the idiotic thing he just did seem like an accident.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:36 pm to rt3
Completely agree. Should have no impact on any runner unless involved in the play. Slaughter and pap should have both been out. Smith should not have. Dumb rule
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:37 pm to tLSU
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You're probably right. Maybe next time slaughter can just run up and deck the second baseman right as he throws. No call as long as he gets the double play off.
Now you are talking old school baseball! However the purist in me was taught that if Slaughter is not getting down and running up to "deck" the SS that he in turn puts the ball right between Slaughters eyes. And that my friend is how purist baseball is self governed
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:38 pm to tLSU
You're an idiot.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:38 pm to tLSU
I watched that play and replay. He touched the bag. The slide was to the side of the bag, but he touched the bag. It was a baseball play and it's sad that surviving contact is not part of the game at this level. But a rule is a rule. I guess he won't make that mistake again.
(If someone posts a gif and he doesn't touch it, I'll come back and admit I am wrong. But I recall him touching the bag)
(If someone posts a gif and he doesn't touch it, I'll come back and admit I am wrong. But I recall him touching the bag)
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:39 pm to TigersD69
quote:do you expect the umpire in this situation to wait to see if the DP is affected??? He has to make the call right when he sees it. The call is probably not made if Slaughter's foot doesn't clip the short stop, and Slaughter actually stops on the bag.
he purist understands the situation and makes no call there b/c (and only b/c) the integrity of the DP was not affected.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:40 pm to jwall3
He was in the baseline and he touched the bag. It was a BS call.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:41 pm to jwall3
He slid with his right shoulder on the ground and his back to the bag. He was literally facing the outfield He took out the SS with his left leg stretched out and his right leg under him when the SS momentum is carrying him towards right field. What body part touched the bag?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:42 pm to PaperTiger
Post a the video and let's see
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:42 pm to TigersD69
An up can also be a purist and a technical guy.
As we attempted to double up FL on a ground ball to Freeman with a runner on 1st. Freeman had an easy pitch to Kramer for the attempt at a double play. However, FL player ran to 2nd in an "arc" that shielded Freeman from making the pitch to Kramer so was forced to throw to first. Thus circumventing the possible double play.
Now if the interference rule states you are on a base and a ball is hit you must go directly to the bag and if you deviate from that to break up a double play, you are auto-out. Yet by "intent" on the same play a runner can "intentionally" run in an arc to shield the 2nd baseman from throwing to 2nd to initiate the double play. I thought the rule says you have to run directly on a line from 1st to 2nd???
Smooth base running by the FL runner, but interference relative to the rule. So I guess in this case the ump was a "purist".
As we attempted to double up FL on a ground ball to Freeman with a runner on 1st. Freeman had an easy pitch to Kramer for the attempt at a double play. However, FL player ran to 2nd in an "arc" that shielded Freeman from making the pitch to Kramer so was forced to throw to first. Thus circumventing the possible double play.
Now if the interference rule states you are on a base and a ball is hit you must go directly to the bag and if you deviate from that to break up a double play, you are auto-out. Yet by "intent" on the same play a runner can "intentionally" run in an arc to shield the 2nd baseman from throwing to 2nd to initiate the double play. I thought the rule says you have to run directly on a line from 1st to 2nd???
Smooth base running by the FL runner, but interference relative to the rule. So I guess in this case the ump was a "purist".
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:43 pm to jwall3
you say he touched the bag but you can't prove he did? Jesus. Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:45 pm to hedgehog
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You're an idiot.
The fact that you don't know what I'm referring to about purist baseball self governance shows me your complete lack of knowledge about the game. Go to bed little boy before I hurt your feelings..lol
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:45 pm to Chicken
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do you expect the umpire in this situation to wait to see if the DP is affected??? He has to make the call right when he sees it. The call is probably not made if Slaughter's foot doesn't clip the short stop, and Slaughter actually stops on the bag.do you expect the umpire in this situation to wait to see if the DP is affected??? He has to make the call right when he sees it. The call is probably not made if Slaughter's foot doesn't clip the short stop, and Slaughter actually stops on the bag.
Agreed, and in this case he did not hit the bag with his foot and did "hit and impede the shortstop's throw to first". It hurt us, but he was out due to interference.
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