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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:39 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:39 am to
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Somewhere Deion Sanders must be laughing his arse off about Wing being labeled a taunter!


That and about 80% of the people who scored Touchdowns in college football games on Saturday.
Posted by FinkyStinger
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:39 am to
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Wing and this play has gotten more exposure in the media because it was first play with new rule.


Seems funny that with all of the games that have been played this season, that Wing was the first player to taunt anybody.
Posted by touchdown moses
eunice, LA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:41 am to
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And he's fortunate he didn't get another flag for going into the crowd, and that one would have ended his afternoon.




he is fortunate that he didn't get 2 unsportsmanlike flags on one play???????????
seriously?
has that ever even happen
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:42 am to
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So if was against FLA it would have been the righjt call????


According to most folks here, absolutely.
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:44 am to
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he is fortunate that he didn't get 2 unsportsmanlike flags on one play???????????
seriously?
has that ever even happen


I don't think I've ever seen it in an NCAA game, but there were two distinct unsportsmanlike acts on the play.

I have seen it happen on a lower level.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:46 am to
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You felt that Wing outstretching his arms for literally one second was "taunting", and something worthy of eliminating the touchdown?
Of course. It's the rule. Take it up with the NCAA. The ref did his job.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:48 am to
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It's the rule.


That I understand. The problem I have is that its a judgement call. Ill never forget those two crock of shite calls in Athens a couple years ago. The NCAA needs to eliminate judgement calls.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:51 am to
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That I understand. The problem I have is that its a judgement call. Ill never forget those two crock of shite calls in Athens a couple years ago. The NCAA needs to eliminate judgement calls.


This. The rule only says that it's a taunt when it's "egregious". What exactly is that (defined as "outstandingly bad, shocking")? That's the issue. Most people saw Wing slightly raising his arms for a second as not really "outstandingly bad".
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:57 am to
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The rule only says that it's a taunt when it's "egregious".
Can you find that? I could not. Here is one of the subsections that I think applies:

(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he approaches the opponent's goal line or diving into the end zone.



Egregious in article, but not in rule?
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 9:58 am to
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This. The rule only says that it's a taunt when it's "egregious". What exactly is that (defined as "outstandingly bad, shocking")? That's the issue. Most people saw Wing slightly raising his arms for a second as not really "outstandingly bad".


The rule does not say anything about "egregious."
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:02 am to
the egregious part was thrown in by Danielson, he said that is what the SEC has told their officials to use as the standard.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41903 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:17 am to
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62zip


Loves calling out us "unqualified" officials and LSU bias....

quote:

And he's fortunate he didn't get another flag for going into the crowd, and that one would have ended his afternoon.


Thank god you aren't an SEC official.......

IMO...it was a bad interpretation of the rule and the call was bogus
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41903 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:20 am to
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e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride




This happens OFTEN...
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:22 am to
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This happens OFTEN...
TM7 should have been called for it earlier this year.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:27 am to
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quote:


62zip




Loves calling out us "unqualified" officials and LSU bias....


quote:


And he's fortunate he didn't get another flag for going into the crowd, and that one would have ended his afternoon.




Thank god you aren't an SEC official.......

IMO...it was a bad interpretation of the rule and the call was bogus


He could have easily picked up a second. The rulebook even goes to the trouble of including going into the crowd in the list of unsportsmanlike acts.

Les disagrees as to the bogus nature of the flag FWIW.

And I agree with you 100%, thank God I'm not an SEC official or I would likely have some internet whackjobs camping out at my house. It's amazing some of the pathetic shite that one can read online sometimes.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:31 am to
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(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he approaches the opponent's goal line or diving into the end zone.


Adams of Arkansas did that vs Auburn on his 90+ yard run and it was not called.

The biggest issue is that the rule is another judgement call. It isn't like pass intereference of holding, but a play where a guy WILL score but a ref decides that he made a gesture that warrants a dead ball and a 15 yard penalty. If it can't be called all the time, then it shouldn't be in the rule book.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35392 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:32 am to
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(e) An unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride as he approaches the opponent's goal line or diving into the end zone.



That's the worst part of the rule that could really come back on some team. Changing your stride like high stepping occurs naturally in many situations. And who the heck are you showing up if you dive into the end zone?
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:32 am to
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Bet he has a degree from Bama or Auburn.


I bet he didn't. Can we check on this fact? I tried to but could not find it.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:33 am to
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Adams of Arkansas did that vs Auburn on his 90+ yard run and it was not called.
That's too bad.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41903 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:35 am to
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Les disagrees as to the bogus nature of the flag FWIW.


Only because he's being politically correct....and he in NO way ripped Wing on the sideline after the play.

As u stated earlier.....
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