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re: The $6k isn't the problem

Posted on 3/16/11 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Chinaski
Mandeville
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Posted on 3/16/11 at 8:46 am to
On the surface it seems legitimate. A school that recruits nationally would need some help locating talent in areas that arent near campus.

Its when these services become friendly with the recruits and their families that the potential for shady activity starts.

My gut feeling is that the NCAA is trying to understand the whole situation regarding these recruiting services in order to enact some future regulations to better govern their involvement with student athletes. I dont see the intent as penalizing LSU or Oregon, unless something new comes to light.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96052 posts
Posted on 3/16/11 at 8:48 am to
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The $6k isn't the problem


The chinaman is not the issue here.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 3/16/11 at 8:55 am to
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Are you saying LSU doesn't possess the ability to scout it's own talent or that every school needs a street agent to deliver said talent?
My own humble opinion is that this is mostly a perception problem. As far as I can tell, the only thing that makes these people "street" agents is that they are being looked into by the NCAA. What defines a "street" agent vs. a legitimate recruiting service other than interest from the NCAA? In other words, what would have appeared different to teams like Oregon and LSU that would signify that these guys are different from any other so-called "legitimate" scouting service?

I guess my question would be this: if there's such a big difference that anyone can see, who are the other "street" agents out there that anyone who follows recruiting intimately can identify before the NCAA points them out for us?

Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/16/11 at 8:57 am to
Will there be a trophy for the Lyles Bowl on September 3rd?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:11 am to
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It't my understanding this Lyles had a shady rep and should be avoided.
Your understanding from where? I've heard throughout this fiasco about how "everybody knew" Lyles was dirty, and yet I'd never even heard his name before the NCAA stuff came out. Does anyone have a source for him being "shady" or "dirty" from before the NCAA interest in him broke?

I'm not an insider or a recruiting guru by any stretch, but this sounds an awful lot like the very familiar refrain surrounding most high-profile accusations. As soon as someone's name is mentioned in connection with a scandal, there's a bunch of people who suddenly show up claiming to have "always known," despite never having mentioned their suspicions to anyone before the media aired them.

Like I said, I have no way of knowing one way or the other, but I've yet to see anything resembling a source supporting the claims that Lyles already had a reputation before this investigation came out. If there were a report, a blog, even a message board post from like 2007 or 2008 referencing Lyles' "shadiness", these vague "he was always dirty" claims would seem less spurious.

Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 3/16/11 at 9:13 am to
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It't my understanding this Lyles had a shady rep and should be avoided.


only shady if LSU isnt involved, hes clean now.
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