re: That 3rd and 8...Hindsight isn't 20/20.

Then Miles has the wrong mindset. I believe you have to have the mindset of, "this team is going to get the ball and there's a very good chance they're going to score". And they did. Not that you don't have faith in your defense, but rather have faith in your offense and just get a damn first down! At that point, it's BALL GAME!!

I was screaming at the TV for them to pass the friggin ball. First down seals the deal. I had no problem with Les being Lesticles all game. I missed that guy. But why go conservative when you can put the game away.

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How amazingly easy for you to say that now

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Say that now? Everyone around me at the game was saying that at the very time and we don't make $4 million a year.

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At the very least ware should have been in shotgun, got the snap and did the "1,2 go" read like cam newton or tebow used to do

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Or why not run the toss-sweep that the Tigers ran vs TAMU. It seemed very effective. To go up the middle with 10 in the box vs the #1 defense in the USA seemed usless at best.

I generally agree with you, but here was the deal:

3rd and 10 at Bama 32 with 2:28. Hill runs for 4 and we call time out with 1:39 at the 28 yard line. Miss the field goal, etc.

We did go for the jugular, so to speak with the Warecat, which was at the Bama 24 with about 8:41 left. We all agree bad call there. I forgot it was that close, damn, points on the board. Of course then they go 3 and out and set up the next and final failure to put the game away on offense.

I just began looking up stats and reading about the game this afternoon, and I'm even more pissed about how close we really were. Great effort, etc, but you're right, either of those series we go from Sugar Bowl at worst to Chick-fil-a bowl.

My summary of hindsight GD it! Momements in addition to the :
*7-3 Bama in 2nd, Hill rushes to 13 then Copeland UR call pushes up back to 28. Lose 2 yards and fake field goal for 0 points when we were at the 13.

TWO awful outcomes

*1:08 missed 54 yard field goal on 4th and 4 from Bama 37. Tough call here, but outcome clearly sucked. Key PI on Martin and Bama got completed first of two drives against the clock.


In summary:
-3 points on fake FG
-3 on 54 yard miss
-3 or 7 on WareCat 4th Down
-3 or 7 on missed 45 yard FG
-14 when the Tigers turned into the 2011 Saints D at the end of 49ers game to close both halfs.

That sucks.

Say that now??

I was saying it the whole drive. Me and my brother kept saying, "you have to get 6 here". And on the 3rd down, we both said "throw it. A 1st ends it". That's the thing that's so frustrating!! Do you guys really think that's such a complicated call?! Jesus, it's easy!

Ghost...yep, painful man. I know. Sucks.

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What would the experts in the stands have said if mett throws a pick on 3rd down? Or gets sacked on 4th and loses 10 yards giving them the ball on their 40 down three pts with 2 mins left?

At the very least an incomplete pass on 3rd stops the clock and gives them an extra 30 seconds of game clock

Then all the experts in the stands would be screaming about miles making another bonehead decision

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I think you have to take into account, how well they had been throwing (and catching) the ball in the second half, up to that point.

I also think it's silly to say "there's no way to know Bama would march down the field and score a TD." Seems to me, you should be playing the game at that point, assuming that could very likely happen.

What should have happened:
Kick FG - good, up 6

KO - hope Hairston puts it in the end zone, no return

BAMA has to drive 80 yds to score a TD with no timeouts and 1:30 left on the clock against a defense that has stoned them the entire second half

That may not be the aggressive play but it was the smart play

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Yes, The Warecat call was bad as well. And what was even worse about that call, if I remember correctly, LSU looked confused on that play. Looked like the call came in very late. As if they weren't sure what play ton run. Again, on Miles. You have to be quick on your feet in those situations. Easier said than done, but that's why he makes the money he makes. Yes, Warecat call was a bad call as well.

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You just nailed what I think is, for all the great things he does, Miles's biggest flaw. He never seems to have much forethought on play to paly. It's like every decision is made in the 40 seconds between plays, not 1 or 2 plays ahead of time. If he's not actively calling plays (which is a whole other topic on this board) then he has no excuse for not looking ahead.

What I mean by this is that for example: It's third down. He obviously knows the down, distance, time, etc. As the HC he has to be thinking before the 3rd down play is run "what am I going to do if we don't convert on this play?" That way if you convert 3rd down, great! But if you don't you already know what you're going to do on 4th. No need to call a TO to think about it. No need to spend the first 10 seconds of the play clock deciding whether to go or not, then the next 10 figuring out the play and personnel.